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I cannot believe what an absolute mess i have made of my life, and subsequently DPs and DCs

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lucyellensmum · 08/01/2008 17:04

Everything is a bloody mess. Here i am, 37 years old, with two children, one 17 (who has left home and barely talks to me) and a two year old. I have a degree and PhD that of no use to me whatsoever - complete waste of my time and tax payers money.

We have NO money, because I, in my infinate wisdom chose to be a SAHM. My partner is trying to start a business and it is not going well, we have to pay the tax man and there simply isnt anything to pay him with. I can't even think about getting a job because i am so bloody down that i cannot cope with the stress of bloody M&T at the moment, let alone going to work. I would only want to work part time, and quite frankly, there is very little i can do - apart from cleaning, which i acgtually wouldnt mind but it would be like pissing in the ocean for all the difference it would make as i simply couldnt do enough hours to make it pay.

My house is a SHITHOLE, because i can't even manage to keep one room tidy, i have spent the whole afternoon trying to get sorted in the living room and it looks like i havent done anything at all! It is a constant battle, we have no storage and there is stuff everywhere. IT gets me down, seriously gets me down. But the more i try and do something about it, the worse it gets. Or at least thats how it seems.

My DP told me this morning that he is really stressed because of finances (again!), i dont think the business is working, he needs to get a job but to be honest, he can't earn enough money working for other people, but this is shit, we have had no money come in since before xmas and we have run out of overdraft! There is money coming shortly, but not anywhere near enough.

How did this happen? We got into debt, because i was greedy and wanted nice telly, nice stuff in my house, nice car - all stuff we should have waited until we could afford it because we are paying a dear price i can tell you, none of it was worth it, i just look at the stuff around me and want to smash it up. None of it is even nice anymore. I have always been shit with money, DP always careful but it got out of control. We borrowed against the house to get out of debt, but we just cant seem to dig our way out. My DP had to have so much time off after DD was born as i was sick, both mentally and physically. There was so much shit when my dad was ill that i dumped it all on DP.

Our relationship is ruined, it breaks my heart, it is just one battle (not with each other) after the other, and of course the tension flares up over the stupidest things and the rows are almost violent (not physical - unless you count me smashing things up). We were NEVER like this, we love each other so much but this situation is destroying us both.

I look at other mothers at M&T and i just want to be them, i want to swap my life, i know everyone has their problems but this is just a vicious circle. Every bloody new year, i tell myself it will be different, and every new year it doesnt take long to dawn on me that we are stuck like this. I dont want this house, i am so desperately unhappy here, i would rather go into council housing and live on the fucking dole and have no worries (i know its not as easy as that - been there).

I was supposed to make something of myself, thank god my father died before he could see what a fucking disaster i have made of my life.

I just cannot see how to make a difference, i want to give up. I'm on ADs, they help with the anxiety but thats about it, ive had counselling, six sessions on NHS - as useful as a chocolate teapot. But then no amount of counselling is going to change what a mess things are.

DP will yet again come home to a shit hole, like coming home to a pristine house would make a bloody difference, i can just tell there is going to be an explosive row soon, over the tax etc, as i have to sort out the accounts and i keep putting it off, because im too scared to open that particular pandoras box.

Sorry, long rant, i just hate myself so much right now.

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Monsoonrain · 13/01/2008 17:07

Try this for local childcare:
www.nurserysearch.co.uk/preschool.html

I used this to sort out playgroup for my little girl (who is 2 & a half). I went back to work when she was 6m old and she was in a nursery. After having DS I didnt know what to do so left her in nursery while I was on Mat leave, but it cost us £240 a month - we couldnt afford this on my Mat pay but I didnt want her to be doing nothing so to speak. Wanted her to be with other kids cos she was used to it and also prepare her for nursery school (which she starts in Sept!).

Anyways I used the link above and found a playgroup near me, she goes from 9am till 1pm 5 days a week, absolutely loves it and it has been a god send, all for £28 a week, miles cheaper than nursery!!!!

Again ANOTHER thing for your list BUT may help out all round???

A list is a good thing, sometimes things seem worse cos we cant work them out, putting them down on paper clears space in your head!!!!

I write a list and then split them into 1 or 2 tasks per day, so do one heading with "Monday" and write a few things to do, then cross them off when dealt with or if they need following up, write them under Friday, sounds very geeky of me BUT it does help - still no fun actually doing it but MASSIVE sense of relief AND achievement once they are done.

Make the first step and write down what needs to be done!!!!! Good Luck!!!

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Niecie · 14/01/2008 13:55

How are you doing today, LEM?

I hope you were able to sort a few things out over the weekend or at least make a start.

(I am not cross with your at all, by the way - there are too many similarities between our situations for that, although thankfully we are just about keeping our heads above the water financially at the moment. Not sure where we will be when the bank loan runs out though!)

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lucyellensmum · 14/01/2008 16:42

Hi everyone. I am VERY up and down at the moment.

I had to see my doctor this morning and she is worried that the citalopram is not enough for me, i told her i would be reluctant to change meds at this moment in time as i dont think it will take much to tip me over the edge.

for the first time today i felt suicidal, this is not a place i want to be, but i just looked at my DD and thought, that little girl is better off without me as i am going to make her unhappy, she is starting to get naughty and i can only think that is because i am so miserable.

All the lovely advice i am being given on here is so sensible, and even the doctor said, break things down, make a list. It sounds so simple, getting in touch with people and sorting things out etc. But i can't even pick up a pen to make the list! I used to be a great list maker, it got me through a PhD for gods sake, but now i cant even manage the washing up.

I have been out with my mum and manage to keep a brave face on, but im worried about my DP, everything is spiraling and im just stuck. I would call the samaritans but , i cant find the time!!!

I just want this to all end now, i can't do it, and im not sure i want to. Don't worry, im not about to slit my wrists or take all my tablets, as i know my family love me, and quite frankly, i think that would be the last thing DP needs to deal with right now. But that doesnt stop me from not wanting to be here anymore. Does that make any sense at all?

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lucyellensmum · 14/01/2008 16:44

i can visualise myself doing all these things, making everything OK, but i can't physically do it - i feel so worthless and weak at the moment. I can't see this getting any better, this is it isnt it?

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TheMadHouse · 14/01/2008 16:47

Hi there

I really think that you need to contact your local cris support team - do you have their number.

Your daughter would not be better off withot you, just think how will her daddy explain it to her. The best thing you can do for her is to seek help and be honost regarding your feelins. Trust me people can help. I was there a few months ago and it is the illness talking, not you.

Please please call the samatetens or the GP or anyone.

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TheMadHouse · 14/01/2008 16:47

Sorry for the spelling Crisis Support Team

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lucyellensmum · 14/01/2008 17:03

i don thave the number, but i dont think its come to that - not yet. i reckon if i am still alive at the end of this week then i will be ok. So, really, waht i am saying is, i HAVE to be alive, i have no choice, you are right, i coudlnt abandon my little girl. So i am going to have to sort myself out arent i.

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NorthernLurker · 14/01/2008 17:07

please call someone in real life - do you have your GP's number to hand - they should be able to help. You are so precious to your family, please take care of yourself and be kind to yourself.

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lucyellensmum · 14/01/2008 17:15

i should say, that it was this morning that i felt so bad. It scared me i have to say - i was sitting in my baby music group and thinking i will never be happy like the other women there and didnt lucy deserve better than this. I dont feel that way now, yes i want out, but i am NOT going to do anything about it.

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lucyellensmum · 14/01/2008 17:16

madhouse, im embarrased, after seeing your thread which i have posted on about your neice, here is me wallowing in self pity.

How is the little mite?

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Wisteria · 14/01/2008 17:18

LEM {massive bearhug}- not sure what to say; have skimread the thread and had no idea things had got so bad for you again, am very sorry.

On a positive note, it does sound as though you are making some positive changes and the WFTC and CTC are worth taking - you should have been getting them anyway.

I actually completely agree with Anna about the tidy house and no clutter, something very zen like in being organised (although easier said than done I know!).

What I used to do with my lo's when I was trying to clean was give them all their dolls clothes or cars etc and a big washing up bowl full of water and bubbles, cloths and towels - then tell them it was either 'car wash' day or 'laundry' day....they made a frightful mess but it kept them busy for hours and had the added bonus that it half washes the kitchen floor at the same time!

If I can offer you any confidential practical help on the accounts/ debt or business side then feel free to mail me on wisteriamn@googlemail dot com - I have various pieces of experience in this field and am quite good at writing the collection letters if that's any good to you.

Will keep checking on this thread and thinking of you - you've offered me help in the past and recently and if there's anything I can do to reciprocate please do get in touch xx

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TheMadHouse · 14/01/2008 17:40

LEM, The baby is not that well at all poor mite. I am waiting for more information.

But I really meant when I said it is not self pity it is the illness (depression) talking. If you are having sucicidal thoughts and planning ways in which you could do it then yu do need outside help.

I take a different AD to you and I was reluctent to change, but it has really made a difference to me. I also think it is worth while finding out the number for the mental health crisis team, they can help you in moments like this morning. They are not judgemental just avalable when you really need them

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Niecie · 14/01/2008 17:58

Oh LEM.

I just wanted to reiterate what everybody else has said. Your daughter will NOT be better off without you. I know you are not thinking that way at the moment but you have to hang on to the thought that she needs you and would end up blaming herself if anything happened to you and I know you don't want that. DD1 needs you too. She may be almost grown up but she is still to young not to have her mum around.

Does DP know you feel this bad? You need to talk to him so that he is there for you. If you can't speak to him about it, you could write him a letter but he has to know what is going on so he can help.

Just be kind to yourself. You are ill. This is not you talking. It is a shame you can't get signed off work as you sound like you need a good rest! Can your DD stay with anybody for a few days to give you a break? Grandparents or aunts and uncles? It would give you some thinking space and let you rest.

Oh I just wish we could say something to make you feel better.

Keep posting though so we know you are OK. If there is anything we can do to help, please just say.

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hellobellosback · 14/01/2008 18:09

You're NOT wallowing in self-pity, LEM. You're being strangled by a very nasty dollop of depression. It's not the same thing at all. I feel suicidal too sometimes. It's a wretched way to feel, and very frightening when you realise it's a very real state of mind.

For my own part, what puts me off is feeling sorry for anyone who has to find the body. My mum says that suicide is the worst thing you can inflict on anyone else. Sometimes it doesn't feel like that!

I really hope you feel better soon. If it is twisting your head it may be worth going to the emergency psych. dept if there is one.

Keep posting. I've been feeling pretty gloomy lately and it's horrible. I'm eating too much and feeling very uncomfortable. I don't smoke any more and getting guttered on booze won't help either. Bugger bugger bugger!

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lucyellensmum · 14/01/2008 18:10

I daren't tell DP, he would be so angry with me ande he is just so stressed at the moment so i am having to put on a brave face.

I wont do anything stupid, i love my children too much. It just seems that the more i plan to do, the less i get done. I was supposed to tidy this room up today so i could at least make a start on the accounts. But i am posting this in what looks like a war zone, there are clothes on clothes horess, toys everywhere and just piles and piles of stuff and paperwork, honestly, you cannot see the floor! I have tidied this room so many times, but due to the fact the upstairs is like a building site, and stuff everywhere i cant put it anywhere. So, even the task of making a list of tasks has been too much for me today.

I do really feel i need to rest, i just want to be alone but i can't. I have to keep strong for DP, if i dont get him through this next month i think i will be at his graveside rather than him at mine.

How the hell did i get like this?

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hellobellosback · 14/01/2008 18:16

I think you would recognise my house! It sounds as though you need someone to help you to tidy up. Sometimes the chaos just looks out and laughs, then sticks its toungue out, then sniggers, then moves around the house and has some friends over.

Have you got Homestart where you live? It won't help the immediate crisis, but they may be able to help in the longer term.

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lucyellensmum · 14/01/2008 18:19

hello - i go to a homestart playgroup, but no one knows how i feel, it is not a play group for mums with problems like i know they do run, just a general playgroup. I am too ashamed to ask them for help to be honest.

The post regarding the tax credits has given me SOME hope, but i think its all too late now. I saw a cleaning job, but it is only two hours a week, what use is that

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lucyellensmum · 14/01/2008 18:22

what has made me feel worse is that my doctor is leaving on maternity leave. She is the only doctor i trust and i dread getting lumbared with some patronising bitch who will just tell me to pull myself together. My Doctor actually offers practical advice that makes sense, but after i walked out of her room this morning it hit me tht she was leaving and i have felt terrible since. WTF.

She said that i may have to change meds, what then ECT?? What a fucking basket case

i feel really angry at the moment, i dont want to feel like this, but i cant cope. Now DD has just emptied all her toys all over the floor after i have put them all away, what is the point!

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LilRedWG · 14/01/2008 18:26

Talk to HomeStart - don't be ashamed. They keep me going from week to week.

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LilRedWG · 14/01/2008 18:27

The playgroup is no different, just quieter and there's always someone there to talk to or to play with your LO so that you can have a cup of coffee in peace.

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lucyellensmum · 14/01/2008 18:35

will think about talking to them, DP just home, he is pretty depressed this evening, job going badly - i dont think that "honey, hows your day, ive been planning on slitting my wrists" is going to go down well!

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TheMadHouse · 14/01/2008 18:39

ECT is the very last thing that they would do and you would need to be admitted.

I really wasnt coping well last year, I was having suicidal thoughts and nearly did the deed.

I was dragged to GP by DH adn the one promise I made him was that I would not lie. I have CBT weekly at home and see a consultant. I am on the highest meds I can be at home and I also have tablets to help me sleep. we joke and say that is the old days I would be in an institution, but now I am care in the community.

I have never lied to him or my care professionals there is no point, so he knows when I am really down.

What stopped me was what would he tell the boys - what would they think when they grew up, that I left them and didnt make the effort to get better.

There are people out there that can help me and if they can help me I am sure they can help you. Try FLYing with us. It is all about a little just 15 mins and once you see the differnce it is really motivating IFYKWIM

If you want to chat offline e-mail me mad mad house at btinternet dot com

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Wisteria · 14/01/2008 19:05

LEM - have you got any good mates who would give you a day to help you clean and tidy? It's far more amusing when there's 2+ of you and you can do a day at each others' houses each IYSWIM.

Or, say I'll have your brats darling children for a day if you'll do the same for me.

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hellobellosback · 14/01/2008 19:30

Homestart is when somebody comes to your house. It's not the same as Surestart which is the toddler groups.

I used to go to a brilliant place which was specially for families who found life quite difficult. Sadly the council didn't carry on with the funding.

I often find M & T groups unbearable. YOu are not alone in that!

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