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Passports and brexit ?

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CTRL · 04/09/2019 16:49

Random question and I haven’t been following the whole brexit thing so have absolutely no idea however how it will affect me or not. (I’m the last person to be interested in politics)

Anyway I was discussing the possibility of getting my son a new passport with my neighbour and my neighbours husband said something about making sure I do it before brexit. I didn’t really question it as I don’t really like to dicsuss politics but what changes would brexit bring in terms of passports ??

I’m British and born here so is my son

While I’m on the topic; can someone explain why people are stockpiling food also ??

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timshelthechoice · 04/09/2019 16:52

Brexit won't matter wrt passports, they have already had the 'European Union' at the top removed.

Please look at the Brexit topic, there are dozens of threads about stockpiling and why people are doing it - basically because no matter what, you can pretty much guarantee that the price of food is going to rise quite a bit.

ArnoldBee · 04/09/2019 16:53

Before you travel anywhere in the current climate folks need to make sure they have 6 months validity in case Brexit happens at any time in the EU. Other countries have different requirements which you can look up. Brexit should not impact your passport application unless they get a rush on due to folks requiring longer validity before travel.

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CTRL · 04/09/2019 16:54

Thank you.

So people stockpile because of the price of foods will go up.

And passports won’t change.

Great. Thanks

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duebaby2 · 04/09/2019 16:55

I don't know why you'd do it before brexit really, if it's a child passport it'll need renewing in 5 years anyway. By the time brexit has been I'll have one child with a current uk passport (not due to be renewed until 22/23) and one child with a new uk passport. 2nd child will be born In December so we won't get a say on what passport he gets anyway!

Stockpiling is silly really but people do it, I work in a supermarket and we aren't panicking here at all so I'm not going to either.

timshelthechoice · 04/09/2019 16:57

I work in a supermarket and we aren't panicking here at all so I'm not going to either.

It's not just shortages that concern people, but also a drop in the value of the pound and higher prices meaning they cannot afford as much.

duffyluth · 04/09/2019 17:14

I don't understand the passport thing. Get one when you need one.

CleverLoginName · 04/09/2019 18:23

We've renewed DS passport early as we go away April and it wouldn't have six months left on it come April.

berlinbabylon · 04/09/2019 18:34

I renewed my passport when it looked like we were leaving in March. This was because I had renewed it early last time, and it had 9 months extra validity on it, so was due to expire in December.

Government "no deal" guidance said that if we left without a deal, we would need at least 6 months' validity on a passport to be able to travel to the EU.

BUT also, that if you had renewed early, the passport was only now valid for 10 years. So, even though it was valid until December, if there were a no deal Brexit it would be treated as expiring in March. And had no 6 months left on it.

So, if you have less than 6 months to go at the end of October, you need a new passport. Or if you have longer than 6 months, but that takes you over the 10 years, you need a new passport.

The upside of renewing early was that my passport still has European Union on it.

bellinisurge · 04/09/2019 19:12

With a lovely new passport you will queue in a non- EU queue in any airport. That will take a bit longer than now.

MongerTruffle · 04/09/2019 19:16

With a lovely new passport you will queue in a non- EU queue in any airport. That will take a bit longer than now.

What colour your passport is or whether it says 'European Union' on it has no effect on how you are processed at border control.

lljkk · 04/09/2019 19:19

er, as a holder of a non-EU passport, I assure you that having EU on there or not makes a huge difference when entering EU!

bellinisurge · 04/09/2019 19:37

Naive @MongerTruffle . But people will find out the hard way if they think like you.

duffyluth · 04/09/2019 19:39

I understand the changes that will come about when transiting the airports for U.K. citizens. What I don't understand is why it matters whether you have a passport that says EU on it or not, because we won't be part of it. UK passport holders won't be separated by the EU or lack thereof on their passport.

duffyluth · 04/09/2019 19:40

With a lovely new passport you will queue in a non- EU queue in any airport. That will take a bit longer than now.

And with an old passport holder, I will be treated the same. Regardless of what it says on the font of the passport.

bellinisurge · 04/09/2019 19:45

Do you really not know how border checkpoints work? Are you so foolish as to think you old holder will make a scrap of a difference? Seriously?

bellinisurge · 04/09/2019 19:47

I dare you to try and pretend you are entitled to go through an EU citizens channel with your tatty old holder. See what happens when you try and dick another country's border control.

duffyluth · 04/09/2019 19:55

Do you mean me?

I don't think it will at all. That's what I was saying. What is says on the passport is irrelevant. We will no longer be part of the EU and treated accordingly.

duffyluth · 04/09/2019 19:57

Wait, did you actually mean me? I don't know but there is no post between mine and yours so I just assumed you did, but your posts don't really make sense in a response to mine.

duffyluth · 04/09/2019 19:58

I meant as an old passport holder. Not that I have a passport holder.

I guess your posts were to me then.

So no, I'm not foolish at all. I said I will be treated the SAME.

BettyBottersBitterButter · 04/09/2019 20:26

What colour your passport is or whether it says 'European Union' on it has no effect on how you are processed at border control.

I assumed that what PPs meant by this is that if you have a UK passport, it doesn't matter whether you have one with EU on it or not, whether it's blue or maroon, all UK passport holders will be treated the same.

And I agree.

duffyluth · 04/09/2019 20:32

That is exactly what I meant.

duffyluth · 04/09/2019 20:35

Sorry I realise that wasn't me you quoted but it is what was saying. Reading it back it looks as if I was agreeing I made the quote. It's just simply that is exactly what I and saying as well. Not sure why the other poster thinks I am foolish or entitled and about to try and dick another countries border control.

WhatHaveIFound · 04/09/2019 20:41

Sorry i haven't read all the responses but my understanding is that if we leave with no deal then you'll need 6 months on your passport just to travel to Europe.

I'm curently hanging on to DS's passport as we're going away at Half Term and then again at Christmas. I shall have my renewal application filled in and ready to send off as soon as we get back.

MongerTruffle · 04/09/2019 20:48

er, as a holder of a non-EU passport, I assure you that having EU on there or not makes a huge difference when entering EU!

The government has already removed 'European Union' from passports, but that doesn't mean that British citizens have lost EU citizenship!

duffyluth · 04/09/2019 21:07

er, as a holder of a non-EU passport, I assure you that having EU on there or not makes a huge difference when entering EU!

Maybe. But for UK citizens, travelling on a UK passport, it won't make a difference at all. Right now we are members of the EU and whether we have an older UK passport with EU on it, or a newer one without we are all treated the same, as members of the European Union. When we are no longer members of the EU we will still all be treated the same as each other, but that will be as non EU members.