Hi all,
We're just posting to say that we've had many reports about the tone and direction of this thread and we'd like to enlist your help to keep things on track.
This type of discussion can attract subtly racist posts, which we delete.
If you see anything which breaks the talk guidelines, please do report and we'll take action. We want the conversation to flow, of course, and we know that people have differing opinions but where we think any poster is being disingenuous we do need to act.