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Is there any way Labour can rid themselves of Corbyn?

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PeakBrexit · 23/12/2018 02:55

If the entire Shadow Cabinet (apart from John McD and Diane Abbott) resigned, would he be able to form another one?

If Sir Keir and Yvette Cooper and Chuka and other Remainer MPs resigned the Whip would the membership got the message?

Surely there must be some legal way of getting rid of the fool.

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moredoll · 23/12/2018 03:02

He is a disaster.

Mistigri · 23/12/2018 07:15

Losing a GE seems like the only way. But he's so useless that he might not win a GE even after a chaotic Brexit. And it really doesn't look good for the Labour Party if they are seen to enable a no-deal brexit in the hope of winning an election.

CaptainBrickbeard · 23/12/2018 07:20

I feel total despair at what a disaster he is. DH defended and defended him up til now but no more. Corbyn is toxic and if we had a decent Labour leader, we would probably have a Labour government by now and not be facing the catastrophe of Brexit. I can’t believe how badly he is doing versus the worst Tory government we’ve ever had. What a selfish, deluded, dangerous idiot he is.

whatswithtodaytoday · 23/12/2018 07:28

What CaptainBrickbeard said, every word of it. The man is a fool. He'll never go voluntarily, and I have no idea how to get him out without a devastating election defeat - which we do not have time for. He's already lost one election, so a soft loss won't do it.

I have fantasies about Starmer, Cooper etc staging some kind of coup and rescuing the party, but I don't know how they could actually go about it when he still has the support of so many members. A new centre-left, Remain, end austerity party perhaps? I just don't think the general public has the appetite for it though, they've seen behind the curtain now, in this Brexit shitshow.

MargueritaPink · 23/12/2018 07:29

If Sir Keir and Yvette Cooper and Chuka and other Remainer MPs resigned the Whip would the membership got the message?

No because the membership is so deluded they voted for him twice. The membership would think losing these red Tories vindicates their faith in Corbyn.

Obviously not all the members , but enough of them to keep him there.

What a selfish, deluded, dangerous idiot he is That is a very good precis of this article.

Why are Labour’s leaders so quiet on Europe? Maybe it’s the lure of disaster | Nick Cohen | Opinion | The Guardian
amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/16/why-are-labour-party-leaders-so-quiet-on-europe---maybe-it-is-the-lure-of-disaster

HowDeep · 23/12/2018 07:32

JM will take over or Corbyn will never resign.

BeardedMum · 23/12/2018 07:45

Agree the man is a dangerous fool

bellinisurge · 23/12/2018 08:44

If only!

lalalonglegs · 23/12/2018 08:51

The membership do seem to be cooling on him given his performance over Brexit. His interview in the Guardian yesterday (in which he said he'd press ahead with Brexit even if Labour won a snap election and despite the vast majority of Labour members being pro-Remain) could be the beginning of the end for him, imo. We would have to worry about who would succeed him...Sad

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PeakBrexit · 23/12/2018 09:00

I have this fantasy where Starmer, Cooper and Ummuna and other Remain MPs form a breakaway group called something like The Real Labour Party for Grownups (I'm still working on the name!)

Yvette is leader, forensically dismantling Theresa May at PMQ. Chuka is all over the media being articulate and compassionate. Sir Keir outlines our policy for revoking, remaining and reforming.

Please Santa - make my Christmas wish come true!

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smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 23/12/2018 09:02

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ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 23/12/2018 09:06

Yvette is leader, forensically dismantling Theresa May at PMQ. Chuka is all over the media being articulate and compassionate. Sir Keir outlines our policy for revoking, remaining and reforming

We can but dream.

PersonaNonGarter · 23/12/2018 09:07

The Labour Party has got the leaders it deserves. Sadly, the country hasn’t got the opposition it deserves.

walrustusk · 23/12/2018 09:09

Problem is, he already did lose a GE. And has doggedly clung to power, with everyone trying to justify it as a huge success as they gained some seats.

He lost a general election - he should have stepped down in 2017. No idea what he's still doing here or why people are so in favour of him when he has spectacularly failed to mount any sort of meaningful opposition,

LeftHook · 23/12/2018 09:36

The Labour Party has got the leaders it deserves. Sadly, the country hasn’t got the opposition it deserves.

I am done with the left, that includes the likes of Wes Streeting and Layla Moran.

I can't see myself voting for anyone again. Spoilt ballots for the foreseeable future. Too many gullible, self-serving cowards and people lacking common sense in politics.

noblegiraffe · 23/12/2018 09:45

I know a young Corbyn fan who still likes him despite Corbyn betraying the youth who voted him into power by pushing ahead with Brexit. It’s bizarre.

MargueritaPink · 23/12/2018 10:00

The only way he will be ousted is if Momentum and the other left groups turn against him. It appears to be starting due to his general ineptitude and attitude about Brexit

But who replaces him? Momentum is a major problem too.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 23/12/2018 11:12

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Gronky · 23/12/2018 17:41

He's received more support from party members than any Labour leader since Smith. Under what scenario would he be ousted, against the will of party members, that wouldn't result in Labour doing even worse in a GE?

bellinisurge · 23/12/2018 17:51

@Gronky - he's such a success. People love him. He's a genius. He has such moral authority.
Or he's totally out of his depth letting everyone down with his stupid teenage ineffectual posing.

Gronky · 23/12/2018 18:04

bellinisurge, I wasn't commenting either way on the merits or failings of Jeremy Corbyn, only the objective fact that he does enjoy a high level of support from Labour Party members. All the internal party wheelings and dealings in the world won't remove the need for votes in a general election. With that in mind, how do you see replacing him with someone who enjoys less support from party members ultimately resulting in more votes for Labour?

bellinisurge · 23/12/2018 18:26

Because the rules were changed to allow Momentum dickheads to swamp the voting exercise.
He has to resign to get him shifted.
Massive support from those dickheads (no other name) does not mean electoral victory as the last GE showed.

Gronky · 23/12/2018 18:32

By what measure are Momentum members "dickheads", beyond supporting someone you personally disagree with?

bellinisurge · 23/12/2018 18:51

Anti Semitic women haters are dickheads in my book.

Gronky · 23/12/2018 19:10

The leadership of Momentum have actively worked to eliminate antisemitism, both within their ranks and within the Labour party in general.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/02/labour-antisemitism-more-widespread-than-thought-momentum-says