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Does anyone else wonder if Johnson and Gove have cooked this up between themselves?

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Bearbehind · 30/06/2016 18:42

It's looking very like Johnson backed Leave in order to raise his profile, become the 'voice of the people' and be the injured party when Leave lost.

He then needed a new plan when Leave won.

Standing for PM now is a poison chalice but letting someone else do the dirty work now, waiting for it to all go wrong and him waltzing in in a few years isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

I get the feeling we're all being played here. The media is making Boris out to be the injured party which suits him, Gove is running but maybe they're hoping May wins then neither of them have to face the fact the the Leaver voters aren't going to get what they wanted.

Just a thought......

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EnthusiasmDisturbed · 30/06/2016 21:18

I'm not sure

I think it's more of a case he knows he won't win for now and something went on between him and Gove. Boris has never had close aides and I think it's generally understood that he will step over anyone who gets on his way

I don't believe he headed the leave campaign hoping he would loose where would that get him but he don't expect the fall out after

He is already getting sympathy he will be back once the dust has settled

Bearbehind · 30/06/2016 21:25

where would that get him

The very narrow loser, the voice of the people and all with no responsibility.

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EnthusiasmDisturbed · 30/06/2016 21:31

It's turned out ever better he is the voice of the people who has been stabbed in the back and won't have to deal with the fall out and negotiations

And can come back when all has settled knowing voters have short memories

Bumbledumb · 30/06/2016 21:34

The very narrow loser, the voice of the people and all with no responsibility.

Exactly and as we faced the next election the Tory party would need a new leader who supported the leave campaign to stop losing voters to UKIP.

Princesspond · 30/06/2016 22:19

As soon as I read the ahem 'leaked email' yesterday I thought there was a game afoot, laying the groundwork for something. Then surprise, BoJo backs out.

SnowBells · 30/06/2016 22:50

CarrieLouise25

Funniest thing I've seen in a long time. DH and I were in hysterics!!!

CarrieLouise25 · 30/06/2016 23:00

Haha - sometimes you just have to laugh Grin (or else you might cry...)

This picture had me laughing too...

Does anyone else wonder if Johnson and Gove have cooked this up between themselves?
CarrieLouise25 · 01/07/2016 12:39

I just had a thought.

Just like in house of cards, it would be very helpful if the politicians addressed the camera directly to let us know what they are really thinking!!

Grin
BigChocFrenzy · 01/07/2016 12:44

Does anyone else wonder if Boris and Gove have cooked COCKED this up between them ?
^^ Fixed that for you.
Yes, because they're incompetent at everything, even career plotting.

franke · 01/07/2016 12:55

As conspiracy theories go, it's one of the more believable ones. They're like two little boys trying to get out of doing their homework or tidying their bedrooms.

Pangurban1 · 01/07/2016 13:02

Unescorted, that laughing man is so funny.

Love the bits that Boris said leaving would not make the UK any less European. And that Cornwall wanted to keep their 'EU subsidies' even though they had voted out.

Maz2444466 · 01/07/2016 13:03

Hahaha OP. That made me laugh as it's exactly the way I think...man it must be soooo draining being a politician

franke · 01/07/2016 13:49

And I think the Daily Mail are in on it too because they've come out strongly in favour of May.

icapturethecastle · 07/07/2016 22:00

Their plan worked Grin

chocolateworshipper · 07/07/2016 22:13

Anyone else find it interesting that the 3 main players in the Leave campaign; Farage, Boris and Gove, are all out of the picture now?

Bearbehind · 07/07/2016 22:14

I know. Grin

I'll never be convinced this wasn't a carefully orchestrated plot to get Johnson and Gove off the hook.

Just need to leave May to screw it up, or Leadsom to completely screw it up, as it is a no win situation and then commence part 2 of the plan in a few years.

You have to admire it in a kind of horrifying way- it was genius.

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paxillin · 08/07/2016 12:15

I did wonder.

BJ: "Fuck, Michael, Leave are winning, now what? I don't want to be PM in this mess"

MG: "Well, better I stand then, no chance of them voting me in, what was the name of that odious woman we met the other day?"

BJ: "Angela? Andrea? Lesson or Letsome or something."

MG: "Yep, her. Let her take this shit, we'll be back in 5 years"

BJ: "Deal, I go cricketing like nothing happened and you flap around a bit in public"

icapturethecastle · 08/07/2016 23:06

Spot on Grin

Inkanta · 08/07/2016 23:22

Yes I also thought that this was cooked up, and something didn't feel right about Gove apparently stabbing Johnson in the back. Johnson could have stood if he wanted to.

Room101isWhereIUsedToLive · 08/07/2016 23:39

The current issue of Private Eye is well worth a read on this subject.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 13/07/2016 21:46

And thus he rises....

How long was he gone...10....20 minutes?

LikeDylanInTheMovies · 13/07/2016 22:35

Part of me thinks May has given him the job to Johnson as an opportunity to fuck it up good and proper and bury him politically once and for all. The other benefits being it appeases the Brexit camp to have one of their own in one of the great offices of state, year the same time he doesn't actually believe any of the shite he was spouting during the campaign and was already rowing back on it in his first Telegraph columns after the vote.

Either that or May has gone completely loopy and thinks he'll make even a passable Foreign secretary.

MinistryofRevenge · 13/07/2016 23:35

Genius move by May if she's trying to fuck Johnson over. Put him one of the great offices of state so he has to look all grateful, but first remove anything breakable, and make sure that if he fucks up, it's only his own career at stake and not the government. And with a nice side dish of cutting off his sources of income and the oxygen of publicity (because however kooky and amusing he may be, it's not really on for the Foreign Secretary to be pratting about on panel game shows or writing a weekly article in the Telegraph).

LumpySpacedPrincess · 14/07/2016 06:36

I am sick of idiots being given important jobs again and again. In my line of work if you fuck up, that's it! Game over! Johnson has been sacked repeatedly for lying, run his entire brixit campaign based on lies. Throws around casual racism like there is no tomorrow but here he is as Foreign secretary. Stop employing him, just stop!!!!!!!!! Angry

LikeDylanInTheMovies · 14/07/2016 13:39

Given the cull of Brexiters from cabinet, having Johnson in a senior position seems more like a case of appeasing that wing of the party and have a few of them inside the tent pissing out. With Johnson there'sthe added bonus that he doesn't believe any of the idiotic things the leave campaign were spouting. Plus he'll inevitably cock up, offend or fuck someone he shouldn't fuck and will have to resign.

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