Have you fallen out with anyone over the vote

[Janefromdowntheroad]

After an epic row on FB which escalated from nothing I've just been deleted by a friend of a number of years

It's crazy how much this is dividing us

Only with people on MN!

Oh MN, I'm not on FB. If I were, I'd be leaving it until after the referendum.

Which way round was it?

Nope. I am an opinionated self-righteous prick all of the time, so one more topic hasn't changed the group of people who actually stick with me as a friend.

No because I refuse to discuss which way I am voting and leave people to make up their own minds about which way they vote.

No but it's changed my opinions of a few people - amazingly it wasn't until now that I realised what racist bigots they are

Yes, my friends are shocked I am voting leave. I am bleeding heart socialist, also the daughter of an immigrant.

Ultimately I think the EU is undemocratic, unaccountable and beholden to corporate interests.

I have been accused of all sorts of things by people I have known since secondary school.

Yes, my father, this morning. But he was extremely rude and condescending and I'd say it's typical of him, it's just I normally accept it.

TheXXed, yes same here. Lots of 'well I'm surprised at you' type comments

No, but I'm not on Facebook and people irl aren't really discussing it. I'm in Scotland - maybe we've learnt from the previous referendum (although I didn't fall out with anyone over that either, but was on Facebook that time and there was a lot of angst).

Yup an old friend called me all kinds of weird shit for being remain. He got all hoity toity on me when I said there's political choices that will need to be made around staying in the EEA and implications. Apparently that's typical elitist thinking....

Apart from just being reality of course

I have shocked people and there have been snipey comments. A leave vote isn't always about immigration. Whatever happens is bad news economically. I don't like excessive layers of governing and I fear a very bad character being voted president by the only people who can MEPs, and we can't get rid.

I learned my lesson at the Scottish referendum. I'm not getting involved in any discussions about the referendum.

How to rebuild - you mean president of the commission? They're nominated by member states heads of govt so almost always a compromise candidate and a bit boring. MEPS can I think reject the whole commission.

Which way are you voting Jane? I don't discuss politics on FB as a rule. Anyway, it's pointless. As if someone is going to change the way they vote based on a poorly researched meme.

Yes, anyone that stupid I can't bother to waste my time on.

It has been an eye opener.

No but only because I refuse to discuss politics.

Rolled my eyes at my boss, not to her face though, I'm not insane and she's like a dog with a bone over this referendum, which surprises me, she doesn't seem the type.

The eye roll was related to some 'facts' that had been thrown around with abandon and she was suckered in!

But falls out and friend deletion no, I think everyone has their own opinion, even if you think they're being a moron, I wouldn't fall out with someone over it

No, although I've blocked one person's rants posts on FB as they were relentless. He's normally such a nice bloke too - I've been quite surprised.

I've had the obvious shared posts about immigration from people that I'm not surprised about from the people who have posted them, but am quite relieved to see that the majority of the friends I whose views I actually respect have the same view as me (in).
I just wish the "leave" friends would post about something other than immigration so I could believe they had a balanced view.

For me voting remain doesn't mean I love everything about the EU though. It means I dod not want to align myself with Farage, who will take the credit and see his power grow If Leave win. And whilst I am more than happy to be friends with, and even remain married to a person who doesn't agree with my vision of a federal Europe (with far more delagated powers to nation states) I can't respect anyone who agrees with Farage.
There was a chance at the start of this campaign to have an intelligent debate about the structure of a supranational body. About the pros and cons of federalism versus the nationstate and the devolution of powers within each of those options. But we've lost that now. And it is all about immigration.

No, there have been a few 'thick racist idiots voting out' type posts but I just ignore them as they tend to be friends with likeminded people. So you could just feasibly get into a row with people, which isn't why I'm on any forum or social media.

No, the people I expected to be vocal about their voting intentions have been and I have long unfollowed them anyway.

I would say "FIL" but remembered that happens pretty much every time he speaks. Stayed off the issue otherwise.

Yeah, OH, sadly.

TJ sadly the nature of the referendum actually precludes any debate about the fundamental virtues of the current EU set up. I suspect a lot of people don't really think about how the EU really works and there would be no point in one country voting to 'reform' the EU.