going in to year 3

[cutekids]

me and hubbie went to "meet the new junior teachers"meeting on Monday night. was all a little scary-teachers much stricter than infants but i suppose they have to get used to that. we were told that the children learn their sums completely different in juniors (think they said vertically rather than the infant way-something like that anyway!). I am great with english and reading etc.but totally naff at maths and I really don't want to confuse her. Does anyone know about yr 3 syllabus and what they actually do in their first term?

any new year 3rs?

ANYONE?

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My Dd1 goes into year 3 in september too, but TBH we haven't bene told anything yet. We don't even know who the new teacher is going to be.

essbee's DS is but I think she's busy today.

Isn't doing maths vertically just writing the nmubers on top of each other?

11 12 +

23

rather than 11 + 12 = 23. So you add the invididual digits rather than physically adding 12 to 11 IYSWIM.

We haven't had a talk or anything, is that the norm then to have one ?

Oh i hope it is Soupy cos thats how I like doing them but got told off when I let Dd do it that way in her homework, even though she found it easier.

I think Infants use a number line and "counting on" (ie 11 + 12... start at 11 and 11, 12, 13, 14... etc til they've added 12.) Also "near doubles" ie "11+ 12 is double 11 plus 1"

yeah, sorry think i got that the wrong way round! I think they said horizontally rather than vertically.Vertically seems so much easier but they're doing this now for "practical reasons" apparently.

Our school teaches different "strategies" for arithmatic (vertical or horizontal, number lines, number squares, all of it). They say it doesn't matter which strategy a child uses, as long as they find a strategy that works for them.

No, I think you've got it the right way rounde Cutekids - DS1 hasn't done anything vertical in Y1, it's been all what I would call horizontal (although I've not actually heard it called that).

Whilst vertical is easier, I imagine it doesn't give them a grounding in where numbers are in relation to one another IYSWIM. The number lines and counting on etc all give a good base knowledge of numbers and where they are and then they get taught an easier way of working sums out.

Year 3 is different in the fact that they move to the Key Stage 2 curriculum.
Thy will be looking a different methods in numeracy...column sums(11+) and horizontal.
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They will learn strategies for problem solving, and will be encouraged to use the method most suitable for them

Don't know if it helps but we are at the end of year 3 just. I am hopeless at maths but luckily didn't need to help with school/homework because it was just going over what they had just been doing in class. So hopefully (hopefully in one way) you wont have any worries. Having said that I would still like to be able to help or at least know what's going on.

my column sum should have read
11+
12

Doh!!!! preview!!!!!
Have taught year 3 so shout if you want to ask anything

Ds will be in Year three in September - don't they start doing times tables? I seem to remember dd doing tests every week

Ds hates maths (gets it from his mother)! All their school have done is let us know which teacher they would be having and today he went to visit the Year 3 one

Dd visted her new teacher today too, she said she was ok but bossy

My dd has just finished yr3. Rather than worrying about the academic side of things too much, my advice would be to try to prepare your dd over the summer for the fact that they are generally expected to be more independent and responsible in the juniors (at least they are at our school.) This is the aspect that seems to cause most difficulties IME. For example, if they have to hand in a letter, the teacher might not say "who has anything to hand in to the office today?" - she/he might just expect them to remember to put the letter in a tray/box thet goes to the office with the register.

I would second Pabla's point. My dd found it very hard making the transition from infants to juniors for those very reasons. It was much stricter, no time for play and expecting them to be more independent. What made it worse for her i think was that her junior teacher had previously taught her a few years back in infants and dd1 expected her to treat them the same - when she clearly wasn't going to it got a bit hairy but we got there in the end!

Hi cutekids,
I taught Y3 for 5yrs and I have lots of sheets which I made to explain the 'new' way that we teach maths in the juniors now with the numeracy strategy etc. Too much to put here but CAT me if you want anything.
I'm sure your DD will be fine

hiya homemama
how do i "CAT" you?

Can I CAT you too?

Ive got a son going into Y3, I am terrible every year when he changes teacher. I worry myself silly about the expectations on him and if Im helping enough. To make it worse my youngest is also starting school. I just cant think about how that is going to feel.I`d love to see your sheets etc.At least I may feel a little more prepared with one son.

What would you do E mail attach etc?

getting nearer and nearer to school...!she's learned to tie her shoe-laces-one of our parents' objectives..!- but she still can't tell the time-not a parent thing- my six year old son can!!!!i'm terrified of this teacher. if she pulls her down, i'm gonna flip! trouble is, everyone i know tells me she's a right old cow and that's really worrying me!

I may have missed it further down but what is this about "parents' objectives"! ds is also going into year 3, from a completely different educational system, so am curious as to what might be expected.

Another Year 3 teacher here to add to the CAT list if anyone is worried!