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Any teachers done their threshold application. I have a few days to do mine in.

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 19:34

What kind of evidence did you have?

It is ammusing me that I am having to put off marking work and planning lessons that could really enahance the learning of my students for a paper exercise for a pay rise that I either deserve or don't.

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kalo12 · 02/11/2008 19:37

lesson plans, schemes of work, kids work,

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 19:40

The problem is that I have just moved schools, and because I thought I had nor been teaching long enough, due to a few part time years so did not collect evidence. I will have a scout about though. I do feel like not bothering which is ridiculous as I know I deserve the payrise.

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kalo12 · 02/11/2008 19:53

i felt like this, couldn't be bothered , but then i looked at someone elses and it was really lame and they still got it. i think everyone gets it realyy unless they are completely rubbish. i remember photocopying registers to prove i had good retention, and attendance,

asdmumandteacher · 02/11/2008 20:00

Shit! Knew i was supposed to do something over half term...whoops...have been teaching 14 years and still haven't got round to it

janeite · 02/11/2008 20:03

I did mine quite a few years ago now but have just done AST, which requires a huge evidence portfolio. Iirc in my threshold one I put in things like samples of lesson plans; resources I'd made; lesson observation write-ups by SLT and HOD; thank you letters from pupils, photographs of lessons (Drama, so easier); examples of INSET I'd done for staff; examples of pupils' work with good formative marking; etc.

Good luck!

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 20:35

are there any online examples to look at.

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ramonaquimby · 02/11/2008 20:38

is there anything on your union website for this? I remember when I did it there was all sorts of helpful examples from different groups. Maybe do a google search? It will be worth it - and be happy that you only need to do it once, subsequent thresholds are a paper ticking exercise done solely by the head.

I'm trying to gain London Charter Teacher status (think it's called that?) which carries with it a 1K one off payment regardless of fulltime/parttime but that is requiring some serious hoop jumping by my head......

so good luck, will be worth it.

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 20:58

I have decided not to bother, I am very tired at the moment and don;t want to push myself. I get really stressed by paperwork and think it is not worth getting myself all wound up by I would rather focus my energy on being a good teacher,

Am a bit pissed off about it, I thought the deadline was the end of the academic year but it is Wednesday and there is no way I am going to get it done and the huge pile of marking I have.

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fatzak · 02/11/2008 21:01

You can get it back dated can't you twinset? I'm sure colleagues of mine have left it then applied the year after.

Lucycat · 02/11/2008 21:08

the date is the end of the academic year!

quote here from teachernet

'There is no national deadline for submitting threshold applications, but teachers wishing to apply in Round 9 must do so in the 2008/2009 school year (no later than 31 August 2009).

unless your head is especially arsey about it all. I can't complete mine yet as i haven't had my feedback from my Performance Management lesson - we were inspected the week before half term - and I'm planning on using my evidence from that on my threshold form

squeakypop · 02/11/2008 21:09

In my school (independent), you have to be in the school for a year before making the initial application. I think this is to give you time to build up your relevent evidence, without it being a huge amount of extra work on top of everything else.

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 21:15

I am finding the whole thing baffling and to be honest I am so annoyed I am getting arsey about it. So need to leave it,

I checked the deadline at the end of half term and was told in our LEA it was the end of October, I double checked as I had been told different by my previous school.

It will just be too hard to do, firstly I ahve no GCSE evidence as I volunteered to teach all of the students who dropped out of my subject, so basically crowd control and discipline so my HOD could take a GCSE class that would do well.

I am so pissed of by the whole thing I am going to be stubborn and refuse to apply which is stupid.

I just refuse to take ny time that meant for PPA to prostitute myself for a pay rise.

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 21:16

So if I apply in October 2009 I can get it back dated to September 2008.

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asdmumandteacher · 02/11/2008 21:17

Its shitty isn't it - i practically did hubbies for him last year..and my performance management lesson my line manager forgot to come! ah school daze.....

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 21:19

The daft thing is because I have taken a pay cut we need the money. Dp is going to be furious when he finds out.

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ramonaquimby · 02/11/2008 21:20

is it maybe that your name has to go forward but you've got until the end of the year to sort out application?

if it's Wed I'd leave it if it's going to be too stressful.

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 21:21

No the whole thing has to be in, school is full of stressed teachers trying to collate their evidence and I don;t have the energy to be one of them.

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squeakypop · 02/11/2008 21:22

That's how it works in our school, Ramona.

We have to put in applications by 1st October as a notification that we are doing it, and to discuss targets with the Head. It is at the end of the academic year when she reviews the evidence and says yes or no.

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 21:24

I was just told my application and evidence needed to be in by Wednesday.

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cat64 · 02/11/2008 21:25

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 21:26

You had to say on your PM review that you were intending to apply and then have the paperwork in by 31st October. I was told I could have over half term but have been too busy marking and planning.

Apparantly my LEA does not want to owe lots of backpay.

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 21:28

I have my previous performance managent I met one of the targets but the others I didnt as my school ran out of money so I could not go on the relevent inset or run the trip I wanted to.

I think it will be easier all around to just wait a year,

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twinsetandpearls · 02/11/2008 21:29

We have been given nothing to help us, appaantly there were sessions last year but I was not there.

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needamiracle · 02/11/2008 21:35

When I did my application (2004) I handed in my completed form without any evidence (a very unhelpful AHT 'forgot' to tell me I needed to supply evidence) and then my HT came back and requested a list of evidence. This may have changed since then, as it is the HT who now decides, rather than the evidence being sent off to a moderator. The NASUWT website used to have brilliant support for completing those forms. I remember pulling my hair out to get in completed. It is worth it, if you can find the time.

I used to be an AHT and sat on a Leadership Team who would help the HT's opinion on whether or not to put teachers through the threshold. Sometimes (I hate to say it) he had already made his decision before even seeing the application forms based on his opinion- totally wrong, I know. Suffice to say, I am not there any more.....

Good luck if you decide to do it. It is worth it!!

hellywobs · 04/11/2008 07:48

If you apply in September 2009 you won't get it backdated to September 2008 but if you apply and get it in July 2009 you will.