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Would you take ds out of school because he hates it?

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SillyHammer · 29/09/2026 15:43

I don’t really know where else to ask this tbh. My DS is 12 and has just started year 7 and I am starting to think we have a much bigger problem than I realised.

He has had a really rough time health wise since he was little. He was born with kidney problems and things got worse and worse as he got older. Covid came when he was in reception and obviously that was a weird time for everyone but for him it was when his health really started going downhill. He ended up having very long stays in hospital, needed a transplant and was really really poorly at one point. He had sepsis as well and his heart was affected when he was so ill. He also has epilepsy. He has had his transplant now and thankfully is much more stable than he was, although we still have hospital appointments etc.

The problem is he missed loads of primary school. I mean loads. There were times he was in hospital for weeks and then he’d be home recovering and then back in again. We did what we could with school work but honestly when your child is that ill school isn’t really the first thing you’re thinking about. His primary were very good and always said he was doing well considering everything, so I don’t think I ever really took in just how much he’d missed.

Now he’s started year 7 and it’s like it’s all caught up with him at once. He hates school. At first I thought it was just him settling in but he’s started bunking off lessons with the other lads. He walks around the corridors instead of going to class, hangs around with older boys and there have been days where he hasn’t gone in at all. His attendance is 78% already and a lot of that is because he is actually bunking off with the other lads rather than being ill.

School have obviously noticed and we’ve had calls and meetings and he’s had detentions and other consequences. They know all about his medical history and the amount of school he’s missed. They have said they’ll monitor how behind he is but have actually offered him a tutor to help him catch up but he won’t engage with it. He doesn’t want to stay after school either and just says he wants to go home. I’ve tried explaining that the extra help is there because he’s missed so much but he just gets angry and says he doesn’t need it.

He’s changed at home as well. He used to be quite an easy going kid considering everything he’s been through. Now he comes home late and if I ask where he’s been he’ll swear at me or tell me to fuck off. He slams his door, refuses to do homework and keeps saying he’s not going back the next day. Sometimes he’s lovely and you can see he’s still my little boy underneath it all, then something sets him off and he’s horrible.

I honestly don’t know if this is just 12 year old behaviour mixed with starting secondary school or whether we’ve got a child who has basically fallen so far behind that he can’t cope with what’s being asked of him.

I’ve started wondering about home education and I don’t know if I’m being completely ridiculous. Part of me thinks take him out before his attendance gets even worse, let him calm down, work out exactly what he can and can’t do and let him learn at his own pace.

But then another part of me thinks taking him out when he’s already refusing school and bunking off is the worst possible thing I could do. What happens when he decides he doesn’t want to do the home education either? I’d be left trying to teach a 12 year old who has missed loads of primary education and is already very angry with me. And I’m on my own with him so it’s not like I can tag team it with someone else.

I don’t want him to spend the next few years getting detentions and being labelled as badly behaved when really there’s a massive gap underneath it all. But I also don’t want to make things worse by taking him out.

I’m honestly completely stuck with this.

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missymousey · 29/09/2026 15:50

No real advice, my son is still in primary, but didn't want to read and run. That sounds awful for you both. I definitely wouldn't keep him in that environment, it is hard to see how things will improve. Is there another school you could move him to? Have you looked for any other home educators locally? There are usually Facebook groups etc for arranging meetups and a lot seem keen on "unschooling" before he tries to engage with structured learning at home so it doesn't necessarily look like you "trying to teach him".

Ineedanewsofa · 29/09/2026 15:56

Can you access alternative provision for him? APs are often more grounded in practical environments like farms with small groups and could be an avenue to keep him in school some of the week at least. I believe AP can also be accessed alongside home education but not 100% sure.

Aviarythebird · 29/09/2026 15:56

Yes I agree - have a look for local home ed groups on Facebook and ask if you can both go and visit and talk to parents about how they home ed. See if there are home ed study and sports groups locally. If you check out the home ed board here there should be past posts about online resources. There are lots of online classes - just specific subjects without committing to the online school thing.
I home edded my three boys and it’s a big commitment and tough if they don’t want work at all. You’d both need to have a clear idea of what it would mean on a day to day basis.

Phineyj · 29/09/2026 16:10

Does he have an EHCP? If he doesn't, make a parental request. All the info you need and a template letter are on the IPSEA website. He needs to be seen by an educational psychologist.

If he does have one, he needs an emergency Annual Review.

He should be in nurture classes considering how much he's missed. Is he?

What kind of transition was there?

Is there a transplant charity you can reach out to to seek advice from other parents in a similar position?

I'm so sorry all this happened. It sounds like it was such a challenging time and it's brilliant his health has improved.

Phineyj · 29/09/2026 16:12

I mean don't feel you have to jump to home Ed without exploring what other options for more support in school/a more appropriate school might be. If you voluntarily off roll it puts you in a weaker position with the LA.

fridgefullofplums · 29/09/2026 16:15

Definitely apply for an EHCP. It may be that a change of school would be the best thing, rather than withdrawing him completely? We were able to be able to show that what DS needed was a different school - in our case an independent school - and securing the EHCP ensured that the LA paid for him to attend. It was a lifesaver - completely turned DS around and he went from hating school to loving it. Happy to talk more about the process if you want to PM.

LIZS · 29/09/2026 16:16

Does he have an EHCP and did he have any support when returning to education after he was well enough? Is there anything he particularly enjoys to incentivise him to attend. School needs to tighten up on truancy if there is an established group he joins. What is their suggestion?

professionalcommentreader · 29/09/2026 16:17

Blimey a lot for a child to deal with, has he had counselling? Are you skilled enough to teach at home, I guess isolation could get worse, you both need support, must have been tough for you to see him go through so much as well!

Octavia64 · 29/09/2026 16:19

It’s really difficult for kids in this situation as often they have fallen so far behind that they just can’t access secondary.

what did he get in his sats?

you may well be better off home edding if you can

Sunbringer · 29/09/2026 16:22

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Sunbringer · 29/09/2026 16:22

His primary school has let him down by not raising this with you and now he feels insecure and confused all the time… I’d bunk off too.

He is blaming himself and taking blows to his self esteem and thinking he’s stupid because everyone else can do the work and he can’t. He’s angry because he feels stupid. He isn’t mature enough to understand that it’s just the learning gaps and not his actual ability. If he doesn’t do the home Ed you say you’ll send him back to school.

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BIWI · 29/09/2026 16:23

Why have you posted this twice?

Thingsthatgo · 29/09/2026 16:26

I was going to suggest some therapy. He sounds like he is angry and lashing out. If his were me I would be throwing everything at this because if he carries on along this trajectory he could really go off the rails. I would pay for some counselling, if you can afford it, and also some family therapy. Does he do any clubs or sports that he loves? It might be a starting point to find a passion that he is good at to build his confidence and self esteem. Struggling every day at school is such a knock to a child’s feelings of self worth.
Swearing is not Ok, and I think there should be consequences for that.

Favouritefruits · 29/09/2026 16:27

Yes I would, but I do think you need to give it longer than from the start of term till now, it’s still all new and unsettling. My son started high school last year and I’d say he only really felt comfortable after Christmas.

if he’s missed so much school because of health problems he’s obviously behind and struggling, so in his head he’s avoiding going to preserve his dignity as he doesn’t want been as behind. Could you honestly give him the education he needs? Have you thought about online school as a compromise?

sashh · 29/09/2026 16:33

Talk to the school and ask them what they can do. It may be that they can offer a reduced timetable or send work so he can be 'educated of site'.

Have you talked to your son about alternatives to school?

Education is non negotiable, but school isn't.

Are you working?

Do you have some skills to teach?

I watch an American Orthodox Jewish woman, she hasn't posted much in a while but she home educates. She uses a mix of bought curricula but not all. She has some good ideas, obviously you are probably not going to be teaching Hebrew but might be worth a watch. Her YouTube is 'Jar of Fireflies'.

I just want to give you and your son a big hug each.

How about talking to your DS about taking a year out of school? If he doesn't engage with your learning then he has to go back.

Education outside school can be visits to a zoo or a museum or a farm.

What is really sad is that he probably has the life experience to complete the BTEC level 2 health and social care, way ahead of his cohort.

SillyHammer · 29/09/2026 16:49

Octavia64 · 29/09/2026 16:19

It’s really difficult for kids in this situation as often they have fallen so far behind that they just can’t access secondary.

what did he get in his sats?

you may well be better off home edding if you can

He didn’t pass them tbh. He was below expected in reading and maths and didn’t meet the expected standard overall

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roaringdragon · 29/09/2026 17:09

Personally, I wouldn’t deregister and EHE. It is easier to get support while you remain in the system. It is easier for professionals to sweep DC’s needs under the carpet when you EHE.

Request a meeting with the SENCO. Other than the tutoring, what support have they offered? Would add attend the tutoring during the school day rather than after school? Would he engage in tutoring if it wasn’t traditional academic tutoring?

What does DS enjoy doing?

Check what the school is recording the absences as.

Definitely request an EHCNA. On their website, IPSEA has a model letter you can use.

I believe AP can also be accessed alongside home education but not 100% sure.

If OP electively home educates, it is very unlikely the LA will agree to fund AP. By EHEing, you become responsible for education. Although some AP settings accept self funders. It is possible to spend some time at an AP setting and have other provision made by the LA at home, but at isn’t home education.

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