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How can I gauge my son's level after starting secondary?

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ozzydu · 27/09/2026 15:55

Right, I need some reassurance or a reality check, not sure which.

DS started secondary few weeks ago. I know the first half-term is supposed to be settling in, finding his feet, all of that — but his primary reports said "working at expected level" for three years running and I never really pushed on what that meant in any useful sense. Expected for his class? For the country? His primary was tiny, so being "good at maths" there could mean absolutely anything.

Now he's in a much bigger school, mixed with kids from everywhere, and I genuinely have no idea where he sits. He seems fine on the surface but he's the kind of kid who wouldn't tell me if he was struggling.

Has anyone been in this position? How do you actually find out where your child is without waiting for the first parents' evening in November? Is there anything worth doing at this stage, or am I just supposed to sit tight and trust the school will flag it if there's a problem?

I just want to know so I can support him properly. Feeling a bit in the dark. 😬

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RedVelvetGown · 27/09/2026 16:00

What were his SATs scores for English and Maths?

Hatty65 · 27/09/2026 16:04

Sit tight. He's three weeks in, and basically his teachers won't really know yet where he is, particularly if he's 'average'. Unless he's obviously really struggling or flying high they will still be sorting out Y7 in their heads.

As a History teacher I often taught 120 Y7s and at this point in their school career I wouldn't be able to offer you much insight into your child. There is plenty of time

TeenToTwenties · 27/09/2026 16:08

Sit tight unless you have specific concerns.
Is November a full on parents evening or just with the form tutor?
You may not get a proper idea until you get a report Dec / Feb.

HappySmily · 27/09/2026 16:08

Do you need to know how they compare to everyone else, or that they are doing their best? I personally feel that you just need to know that they are doing their best in school and with their homework. Because if they are doing that, then they'll be doing as well as they can and you don't need to worry about "where he sits" compared with everyone else. If they need more support with learning, or more stretching, the school should be able to do that, and if they need you to put in more around homework etc they'll let you know. During the first term, setting etc is based on info from Primary schools, until they get them settled and do first assessments, at which point they'll have more of an idea, and that's just about the time you have your Parents' Evening. Just make sure he's engaged and happy and turning up every day.

ozzydu · 27/09/2026 16:11

RedVelvetGown · 27/09/2026 16:00

What were his SATs scores for English and Maths?

I think 100 in Maths and 99 in English - or vice versa- literally right on the boundary. His teacher said not to worry but that's exactly what's nagging at me. 99 means he just missed expected standard and nobody really explained it and I didn't push hard enough at the time.

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Octavia64 · 27/09/2026 16:14

Three weeks in they are focusing on making sure they don’t get lost, understand where they are meant to be and aren’t crying at the drop of a hat.

sit tight.

sats results say he was just expected in one and slightly below in the other. Statistically these days results if he continues on the same track lead to 4s at gcse.

many schools keep year 7 in mixed ability to help with transition so he may not be setted until next year

bannabead · 27/09/2026 16:15

Did the secondary school test them at all? You will get a report/feedback at some point. Do they stream the dc for subjects later

ozzydu · 27/09/2026 16:15

TeenToTwenties · 27/09/2026 16:08

Sit tight unless you have specific concerns.
Is November a full on parents evening or just with the form tutor?
You may not get a proper idea until you get a report Dec / Feb.

Just the form tutor in November I think, not subject teachers. Which is why Dec/Feb feels like ages away..

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RedVelvetGown · 27/09/2026 16:15

ozzydu · 27/09/2026 16:11

I think 100 in Maths and 99 in English - or vice versa- literally right on the boundary. His teacher said not to worry but that's exactly what's nagging at me. 99 means he just missed expected standard and nobody really explained it and I didn't push hard enough at the time.

100 is the expected level - I wouldn’t worry about the 99.

Octavia64 · 27/09/2026 16:17

Ah yes, the expected level on sats at ks2 is set nationally, so it is a national comparison.

at secondary he will be set target grades for gcse based on his ks2 sats so gcse target grades are likely to be 4s.

63% of children met the expected standards in reading writing and maths.

https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/key-stage-2-attainment-national-headlines/2025-26

Release home - Key stage 2 attainment: National headlines

Accredited official statistics on the headline statistics on attainment in key stage 2 national curriculum assessments in England.

https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/key-stage-2-attainment-national-headlines/2025-26

TeenToTwenties · 27/09/2026 16:19

What is your concern?
What his general level is, or that he is struggling and not telling you?
What would you do with more info?

Can you see his class books or homework to get an idea for yourself?

At 100 or so he will be 'targeted' a 4 or so at GCSE for Maths & English.

Other teachers will only see him once or twice a week so they need longer to see how he is doing. KS3 is a 3 year process.

Octavia64 · 27/09/2026 16:19

ozzydu · 27/09/2026 16:15

Just the form tutor in November I think, not subject teachers. Which is why Dec/Feb feels like ages away..

That’s a settling in type meeting not really a full on parents evening,

the form tutor will collect info from the subject teachers and pass it on to you (at least in my school).

it’s to make sure any issues/problems are talked about quite quickly. You’ll be able to ask how he is doing academically.

ozzydu · 27/09/2026 16:26

TeenToTwenties · 27/09/2026 16:19

What is your concern?
What his general level is, or that he is struggling and not telling you?
What would you do with more info?

Can you see his class books or homework to get an idea for yourself?

At 100 or so he will be 'targeted' a 4 or so at GCSE for Maths & English.

Other teachers will only see him once or twice a week so they need longer to see how he is doing. KS3 is a 3 year process.

Honestly both — general level and whether he'd tell me if he wasn't coping. He wouldn't. Good point about the books, I've been waiting for someone official to tell me rather than just looking myself. I'll do that. A 4 is a pass but if there's more in him I'd rather know now than in Year 11.
That's basically what's nagging at me.

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FrauPaige · 27/09/2026 16:30

Schools only set an hour of homework per week typically in year 7 which may not be enough to fundamentally change his trajectory.

Encourage (soft enforce) reading at home, take an interest in his homework, log on to the school's portal showing achievement points etc (which will directly fill the information void that you are concerned about), and limit smartphone use as much as possible - yours and his, so that it is "do as I do", not "do as I say".

IMTHECRAZYOLDLADY · 27/09/2026 16:35

My dd at the start of year 7 was streamed into all lower sets. He left sixth form with Amaths, AFM and A physics. He is now at Warwick studying maths. Some children flourish as they mature. Don’t worry just yet, let him settle in and then see where he is next term. He has plenty of time

Fasthorses · 28/09/2026 07:04

OP so much depends on your son here and what those sats scores represented for him - did he put in a lot of work to get to those scores, or is he naturally a more laid back child and didnt put in any particular effort?
Did his school do any practice tests before the real tests and if so, were his practice scores in line with what he got on the day?
The 'expected level' can be a tiny bit misleading as the average score achieved up and down the country is something like 104/105, so with 99 /100 he's sitting a whisker under that average.
Its not going to do any harm to do a bit extra at home this year to reinforce his learning and give him confidence - can you get some CGP books (schools often recommend these) and do a bit of extra with him at home on a weekend?

Kepler22B · 28/09/2026 07:06

At 4 weeks into term the teachers won’t know yet. I have just about learnt everyone’s names and classroom personalities (who needs reassurance, who will put their hand up or not, who needs reminding to stay in their seat).

I’ve set easy achievable homework with a deliberate high success rate to build confidence and routines. I would know if someone is really struggling to keep up but not much more than that.

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