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HELP PLEASE!!! Maths GCSE stuff

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LittleWonder · 18/05/2008 19:12

DD is stuck in preparation for tomorrow and I haven't a clue - can anyone explain:

sqrt12 + 15
___
sqrt3

can be written in the form p+q sqrt3, where p and q are intigers.

Find The Value of p and q.

I know p is 2 and q is 5, but i don't understand how!

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iwillNOTletthisbeatme · 18/05/2008 19:13

next!

foxinsocks · 18/05/2008 19:17

ok

you split the question into two bits

sqrt12/sqrt3 then + 15/sqrt 3

because they are both sqrts, you can put it over the whole of the first bit i.e. over the whole of 12/3 so you can simplify that bit to the sqrt of 4 (i.e. 12/3) which is 2

the other bit 15/sqrt3 as you know it has to end up as q sqrt 3 you multiply that bit by sqrt 3/sqrt 3. So 15/sqrt 3 times sqrt 3/sqrt 3. The top bit becomes 15 sqrt3 and the bottom is 3 (sqrt 3x sqrt 3) and you can simplify the 15/3 which is 5.

foxinsocks · 18/05/2008 19:21

so it ends up as sqrt(12/3) + 15sqrt3/(sqrt3xsqrt3) just before you get to

sqrt4+(15sqrt3/3)

2+5sqrt3

foxinsocks · 18/05/2008 19:21

good luck to her littlewonder!

LittleWonder · 18/05/2008 19:22

thanks so much - I could only get as far as the first part.

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foxinsocks · 18/05/2008 19:30

actually, thinking about it...probably the way she is taught is to split the 15 into something multiplied by sqrt 3 so 5x3 which can be written 5xsqrt3xsqrt3 and then you'd have that bit on its own over the sqrt3 so

(5xsqrt3xsqrt3)/sqrt3 and then one of the sqrt3 s on top cancels out with the one on the bottom leaving 5xsqrt3 on top.

I don't know how they teach that level maths these days!

LittleWonder · 18/05/2008 19:43

Oh, I'll show her that, meanwhile I am going to get some wine! thank you so much again WizzFox

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wheresthehamster · 18/05/2008 19:56

OMG I'm sure dd1 wouldn't know the answer to this. She has been in her bedroom 'revising' all day and won't let anyone in. This is her worst subject. Probably a 'C', hopefully a 'B'. Fingers crossed

leosdad · 19/05/2008 09:48

While we on the subject, does anyone know how the marks turn into grades, DD is doing the unit 1 paper soon (year 10) and said to get an A* you have to get 29/30 which sounds very high considering the numbers that do get that grade.

LittleWonder · 19/05/2008 14:12

Thank you Foxy!!! She had a similar question and was able to do it. She said I must get on here and thank you from us both!!

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foxinsocks · 20/05/2008 20:03

yippee! marvellous. Hope it all went well for everyone.

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