Teachers and extra-curricular/out of school activities

[fivecandles]

Out of interest if you are a teacher:

1.) Is there an expectation that you contribute to extra-curricular activities at your school?
2.) Is there an expectation that you contribute to activities outside of the classroom that would support students' academically e.g. revision sessions? one to one support?
3.) What sort of activities have you been asked/ volunteered to do that are not directly related to your teaching role e.g. trips?
4.) How you received any additional payment for these activities?

Thanks, in advance.

1. Yes, all teachers and teaching aistants run after school clubs
2. I run easter Booster sessions for yr 6 in the holidays, any other support is within school time or ( in the case of some 1;1 tuition) by external tutors 3)trips, residentials, whole school sleepovers, attendance at school fetes, PTFA events etc, First Aid training was on Saturdays,
3. i will get paid for the Easter Booster ( although I didn't know when I volunteered to run them that I might!), not for anything else.

1.) Yes very much so it is a question we ask at interview and serious note is taken. I think we all provide something.
2.) Yes we all run weekly revision sessions. We also do other types of whole day events. In the past I have done easter boosters. In the past I have run summer schools.
3.) I go on or run a number of trips a year, attend and help out at concerents regularly. Plan and run parents and student socials.
4.) I was once paid for a summer school I ran but not for anything else

1. have to disagree with spanieleyes, in my school some teachers but by no means all run after school clubs and no teaching assistants run after school clubs, so I guess it depends on the school
2. as above, some teachers run revision session but certainly not all. - I have been doing weekly sessions for 10 weeks in the run up the exam season, but this is my choice. There is limited payment available for this - it has been more in previous years, but budget cuts have meant each subject can only claim for 2 hours. There is more funding available for the core subjects
3. as an MFL teacher I take an annual visit abroad, but I volunteer to do this, I am not asked to
4. see 2 for payment question

Agree with other posters who have said it depends on the school and the HT

1. yes
2. yes
3. after school clubs, residential trips etc
4. no, of course not.

1. No - unless you are PE, Music or Drama
2. Oh yes!
3. I did a languages trip once (am a Science teacher) and we have activities week
4. No!!

1. No
2. Yes, it is very much expected that teachers run revision classes, extra coaching/tutoring, extra days in the holidays and long-distance support via email.
3. I go along on trips but no longer organise them due to the level of paperwork.
4. As above, was paid for summer school once and there is money available for one to one tuition but it is very limited and doesn't cover a fraction of the 'extra' that we do. And only for core subjects.

Now - can we ask why you are asking?

1. No. Teaching assistants or outside agencies run the after school clubs, and of course they get paid for this.
2. Not an expectation but I offered to run a SATs booster, and I get paid by the hour at supply teacher rates.
3. Representing the teaching staff at various events, but not in a teaching capacity. E.g. thinking skills workshop, school fayre, community cohesion projects with our feeder school (evenings and weekends, on occasion).
4. See answer 2.

Why do you ask?

1.) Is there an expectation that you contribute to extra-curricular activities at your school?
Not really, as that's against the rules , but there are frowns and meaningful glares if teachers don't volunteer for something! (I mean from other teachers - not the HT!)

2.) Is there an expectation that you contribute to activities outside of the classroom that would support students' academically e.g. revision sessions? one to one support?
No. Several teachers were involved in a scheme recently, but they volunteered and they were paid.

3.) What sort of activities have you been asked/ volunteered to do that are not directly related to your teaching role e.g. trips?
Three lunchtime clubs, arrange two music concerts per year, music events at fetes, etc, Creative Partnership meetings and preparation of scrapbooks (hours and hours of work), attendance at Christmas/summer fayres/fetes.

4.) How you received any additional payment for these activities?
No

Why do I ask? See the other thread on social class and gender. Another poster has suggested that extra-curricular and revision activities are or should be paid esp. in the private sector and that any schools which pressured teachers to do extra work were 'abusing' their staff. I disputed this but wanted to check. I have distinct memories of wanting to get involved in extra-curricular work and the school community as an NQT and in my first years of teaching because I genuinely wanted to but also because it was considered to be the done thing to get ahead. But I now work at 6th form level (where we spend a lot of time doing both paid and unpaid revision and extra-curricular stuff but things are a bit different). Although now I'm at a more senior level there's also an expectation (from me as well as from colleagues and SMT) that I'll sort things out like theatre trips for the whole department.

1) have to disagree with spanieleyes, in my school some teachers but by no means all run after school clubs and no teaching assistants run after school clubs, so I guess it depends on the school
Sorry, pjd, I meant all the teachers and teaching assistants at my school not ALL teachers and teaching assistants

Sorry to interrupt but if people don't mind, could you also add whether you are state or independent sector ? Thanks.

State sector.

1. Hell yes
2. Supported study at lunchtime, Easter hols revision class (have 4 DCs of my own)

3.Discos, junior drama group

1. Ha

state me too!

1. no
2. no
3. camp
4. no

1. yes - nearly everyone does. I really enjoy doing things outside of my specialism.
2. yes, would be frowned upon if you refused to offer these - lunchtime def, before and after school less usual.
3. trips of all sorts where extra bodies are needed.
4. once for something i ran in the easter hols (revision class)

this all depends hugely on the ethos in your school - am at outstanding state which aims to close the gap on indis partic in the extracurricular respect, at previuos poor school virtually no-one ran anything for the kids bar the odd dram or footie club.

We have a good system where the council emplys Active School Co-ordinators and these sporty people organise a wide range of after-school and lunch time clubs in primary schools. Community Education and Leisure departmetns also organise a huge range of cheap courses and activities after school, at weekends and in the holidays.

This co-ordinated effort is very successful and prevents overloading or over-pressurising school staff.

That is good, pointy but isn't this going to suffer from the cuts?

State sector (primary).

1.) No, but it is encouraged.
2.) No, but again it's encouraged. Some TAs are paid to run these kind of activities.
3.) Things like summer/xmas fayre that all staff are expected to attend, but these are counted as directed time. The only thing I can think of in the whole school outside directed time is the Yr 6 residential trip.
4.) Anyone doing one-one outside school hours is paid or has time off in lieu.

We have people who come in and organise some things but many teachers enjoy doing this kind of thing. I run or am involved in a lot of extra curricular activities and yes it adds to my workload but I would not want someone to take over.

State secondary school.

1.) Yes. English teacher. I run three after school clubs a week (two weekly and one monthly).
2.) Yes, at this time of year I run revision classes for GCSE and A Level students. I also ran classes for half of the easter holidays.
3.) I do probably five trips a year (one for each of the year groups I teach), and more in summer term.
4.) No additional payment, but time off in lieu for Easter revision clubs and foreign trips.

I don't see how time off in lieu can work although I am happy to be educated.