To think the gov would rather kill off the unvaccinated?

[SilentNoMore]

Yesterday I had the misfortune to come across a group of ant vaxxers outside my doctors surgery.

They were trying to hand out leaflets showing that the vaccination was going to kill me within two years. I realised I knew one of them and they came over to talk to me about over population and how Stanley Johnson and Bill Gates want to tackle over population by killing a load of people via the jabs.

Now if I was in charge of the government/world/etc the last thing I would want to do is wipe out the segment of the population that is happy to do as they are told. I be more inclined to wipe out those that don't support me.

I put this to the anti vaxxers, 'what if the vaccine deliberatly protects against a deadly virus that hasn't yet been released, and that once everyone who wants the vaccine has had it the people In Charge will release the virus and wipe out all the unvaccinated' I was told I was being ridiculous and then that I was scaremongering.

Now why is my alternative more ridiculous than theirs?

(For the record I don't care if people are vaccinated or not, I do care that people want to pressure, guilt and lie to force their opinion)

Love your 'just like their logic' theory

It would make sense for governments to wipe out the entire section of society that questions anything the government tells them. Why would you want anything but an obedient population?

@Teggimolt Exactly! Of course a government would like an obedient, compliant, unquestioning population.

Of course it’s absolute bollocks OP and utterly laughable that all these anti vaxxers are fully informed highly astute political commentators - most of the people I know who are anti vaxxers are Tory voters who elected Johnson into office. Make of that what you will 🙄.

Those of us who have had our vaccines are not all obedient and compliant. Such utter shite. We’ve made an informed decision, the anti vaxxers believe they’ve made their informed decision. That’s it. We’re not all sheeple or whatever the latest ludicrous insult is 🙄.

I was told I was being ridiculous and then that I was scaremongering.

Can you elaborate more on the involvement of Stanley Johnson? Is he working with Bill Gates or on his own project, do they say? I can’t help feeling if SJ was running some kind of global plot I wouldn’t be too worried, am I underestimating him?

Yes, why Stanley Johnson?
Is Boris his secret puppet?
Is he a super villain: he hides it well?
Lots of questions, but I don't really want to go down an anti-vax rabbit hole.
I have a couple of close relatives who are unvaxed but neither of them want to persuade other people, and indeed think other people should get vaccinated if they wish.

BeMore of course, equally some of those that haven't had their vaccines are obedient and compliant. But why do the protesting anti vaxxers think its more likely the government will kill those that have chosen to follow advice as supposed to those that haven't

Your mistake is thinking there's any logic involved.
It's all tin foil hats and lizard people.

I couldn't get to the bottom of the Stanley Johnson issue, all I was told he had written about the problem of overpopulation and that was proof.

Yes I’m confused about this too.
The vaccines kill everyone but the elite want to control everyone. Ideally everyone should be fully vaccinated. Who will they control if everyone is dead?
Maybe it’s some kind of sport like the Hunger Games? See how long the defiant unvaccinated survive while the elite try to find other ways to kill them.

I have family members who believe this claptrap too, their "credible" information however came from Tiktok and Instagram, yet I'm the delusional one who who won't be laughing in 2 years time when I'm dead

I do agree with the sentiment that the mass natural selection is going on atm, but the opposite to those people who thinks the vaccines are tool of depopulation. Sad thing is, they are the victims of misinformation, maybe with families and friends who are desperately trying to change their mind. Depressing.

If it's true and the vaccinated will die in two years then I'm happy I got those jabs. Rather that than have to live in a world solely populated by the anti vaxers.

@Firstworddinosaur ! Yes that does sound like hell!

@rainrainraincamedowndowndown who are the victims of misinformation?

I’m still waiting on the great reset that was meant to happen two years ago when the pandemic started.

I love conspiracy theories - until people start dying totally unnecessarily. Then they just make me really fucking angry .

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You're right, much more logical to kill off the trouble makers . Your conspiracy theory makes much more sense.

@BeMoreGoldfish

I love conspiracy theories - until people start dying totally unnecessarily. Then they just make me really fucking angry .

THIS. It’s idiocy

Why Stanley?

I don't know if it's true (haven't had time to look into it) but apparently he's written a number of books or articles about eugenics and overpopulation.

However.... If there was any kind of eugenics policy, it's not the vaccines (that help protect against serious illness and death, but simply aren't 100% effective and need to go together with a Vaccine Plus approach).

No. That would be the current removal of all mitigations that would allow us to genuinely 'live with it', without being killed or becoming disabled.

I emphasise "mitigations" because that's what they are, rather than restrictions.

Masks, vaccines, good ventilation including HEPA filters.

Mitigations, at least until we have more of the world vaccinated, better knowledge of this still new and evolving disease, and wider availability of drugs like sotrovimab and paxlovid.

We live with cars by including safety mitigations to reduce risks. Seat belts, speeding limits, child seats. Likewise mitigations are how we genuinely live with Covid.

The irony is that if there really was a eugenics policy, the anti vaxxers are the useful idiots, helping the cause.

@rainrainraincamedowndowndown

I do agree with the sentiment that the mass natural selection is going on atm, but the opposite to those people who thinks the vaccines are tool of depopulation. Sad thing is, they are the victims of misinformation, maybe with families and friends who are desperately trying to change their mind. Depressing.

This.