“Speaking to 100 Israelis about Palestine”

[Madenegb]

Interesting to see a general snap shot of the young population.

Reading the comments underneath the video I agree, the cool aid is strong.

Here's footage of brave israelis protesting against the Israeli government. The words of some of the counter protesters though is pretty shocking "let's fatten them up like pigs and kill them all" is one delightful comment. Well done to the protesters for standing strong and dignified

https://www.channel4.com/news/the-israeli-activists-protesting-for-gazas-children

TBF I’d probably feel not very nice thoughts about my neighbours who were deliberately indoctrinated and trained to cause terror and had done so for decades by committing suicide attacks, shooting and stabbing rampages, car rammings, plane hijackings etc, get pay for slay allowances for killing my people, and constantly publicly broadcast their wishes to annihilate my country and kill me and my family culminating in the Oct 7th mass scale atrocities, one of worlds worst terrorist attacks, dragging my country and my young men and women into another horrible war.

I doubt many in Europe would think nice thoughts in the same situation either, and it would be understandable.

Why do you feel Israelis should be held to a higher standard?

Meanwhile here are the Palestinians:

https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1929844431747740159

https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1871884401564422335

https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1905257518730801530

https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1905946899066093910

https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1924649949503094794

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1797240069201285367

Why do you feel Israelis should be held to a higher standard?
Why are you lowering the standards of others? No I don't think I would ever wish innocent children murdered but you do you.

Very childish retort but to be expected. Where did I say I ever wished innocent children murdered?

I have yet to see hordes of Israeli civilians going into Gaza to commit mass scale atrocities, gang rape and burn whole families alive, behead, dismember, loot and steal, kidnap a baby and a toddler as well as parade dead murdered bodies through their streets and spit on them, before, on or after Oct 7th like Palestinians civilians did.

Therein lies the difference between words and actions.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/hamas-palestinians-pogrom-israel

You can dismiss the lived experience of those who were directly involved in Oct 7th if you want, while probably never having stepped foot in the region, and lap up Hamas propaganda without questioning your bias. You do you as you say.

I see no comment at all on those horrific videos of children being trained to become terrorists and what they have grown up being indoctrinated into.

Fake news?

This is really positive to see!
Glad they are seeing through the propaganda of their own government & Netanyahu.

Have you actually researched what Palestinian civilians have been put through over the past several decades by the Israeli government & civilians?

I'm not sure what a curated selection of clips of some social media personality shouting at strangers on the Internet proves.

Some of the comments are fucked though, I agree about that. Praising Hamas, celebrating Oct 7, and just plain old racism. But thankfully youtube comment sections aren't any more representative of society than his videos.

Yes. It seems to be in response to decades of Palestinian terrorism and a wish to annihilate Israel and kill all the Jews as they believe ALL the land is theirs so they don’t want peace or to create their own thriving State alongside Israel.

Terrible all round and massive catastrophe for generations of Palestinians.

Do you think Oct 7th was justified then?

Why would I think any kind of terrorism is justified?

You don’t seem to acknowledge Israel has been committing a genocide, with well over 60,000 innocent civilians who’ve lost their lives. Majority under 18 years old, MANY of which are children.
They have broken international law, denied aid into Gaza, bombed UN aid trucks & civilian camps that are meant to be safe places.

BEFORE October 7th they were occupied by Israel -blatant fact. KIDs captured & prisoned, Palestinians literally had their own land/gardens stolen from them with rights taken away, IDF Patrolling their streets causing intimidation and aggression.

Israel has controlled the Palestinian population registry since 1967, and the occupying state has full authority over issuing Palestinian ID cards and passports, and deciding who gets to enter and exit the country.
Israel had stopped processing requests for Palestinian family reunification 12 years ago, leaving thousands of Palestinians without legal status and unable to travel or access healthcare, jobs, an education, or the legal system – including for divorces.
Basic rights taken away and not even being able to escape.

@CalmNightSky “You don’t seem to acknowledge Israel has been committing a genocide, with well over 60,000 innocent civilians who’ve lost their lives.”

You believe the IDF haven’t killed a single terrorist?

It seems like people are trying to pigeon hole Israelis into 'good Israelis' who are willing to speak up against Israeli action and the 'bad' Israelis who support government military action. The danger is a real stigmatisation of Israelis where loon eyed pro Palestine supporters can point their fingers at the latter group and should 'genocide supporter!!!!!' with froth filled rage. 80% of Israelis wish the displacement of Gazans to other territories for security so do we need to have interviewed to see how the Israelis as a whole reached that conclusion? Do we need to see the fear after October 7th to understand the Israeli perspective?

I also fear a situation where Jews world wide are out in a position where publically they are forced to deny supporting Israeli military action in Gaza as social necessity. 'I am a Jew and let me start by saying I don't support the military in Gaza might be the expected opening statement in any cpnversation.......

Oh I’m sure they have but by committing a GENOCIDE on top, literally demolishing/flattening the WHOLE of Gaza making hundreds of thousands homeless & equally killing/injuring thousands of innocent civilians was no mistake.

Putting GENOCIDE in caps doesn’t make it true.

Do you even know why the IDF had to demolish Gaza?

Does it make sense Hamas put so much effort into building tunnels and booby trapping almost every building but did not bother to make ANY contingency for the safety of civilians?

That was no mistake.

Well let’s be honest here, those who DO support the Israeli military action are literally supporting a Genocide.

I think most Pro Palestine supporters want peace on both sides. No terrorism towards either side. They are not making sweeping blanket statements on Jews or the general Israeli population but towards the IDF, America supplying weapons, world leaders turning a blind eye to what’s happening in Gaza.

Wow, just wow.

Turn a blind eye all you like but facts are facts.
Actually disgusted.

This comment reminds me of when I first moved to England and the number of people who thought there was only one terroist organisation in NI and genuinely believed only the IRA existed. I had to make the point, who do you think they were bombing and fighting with for decades?

Comments like this which have such a narrow view only serve to keep this divide going on longer. We can’t pretend Israel hasn’t played a part in this conflict for decades. The Palestinian issues have not come from nowhere.
Stopping their land grab and forcing Palestinians out would be a start.

Peace is a long and difficult road but a lot
of the responsibility now lies on the moderates in Israel to calm out what their government are doing.

Yep pro-Palestinians don’t seem to like facts. They make you ‘disgusted’?

There is no genocide. I doubt that any civilian deaths have been deliberate.
There will heve been reasons for bombing buildings, pulling the trigger. Mistakes have been made, that’s war. A war which Hamas started.

The ‘Palestinian issues’ stem from a refusal to accept a Jewish state in what they perceive as Muslim lands.

HTHs.

There was no Palestinian State before 1948 iirc.

No responsibility on the Palestinians to not elect a terrorist organisation with a charter to annihilate Israel and kill Jews then?

That rather says it all.

That clip is a kid in his bedroom in the US, shouldn't be taken seriously but ....the internet

The utter filth posted by followers of that account I wish I had never seen - outright toxic Islamophobia of the crudest kind simialr in tone to the Nazi stuff that is ver sadly increasingly predominant on X. The tone is very much of othering a religion and a people so that wiping them out is nothing to get worked up about.

She also retweets far-right and Trumpian accounts including Tommy Robinson and takes a particluar relish about "muslim rape gangs" . She says she lives in Isarel and from a quick look at her account she is one who seems to relish a breakdown of law and order in the west so that Jews worldwide relaise their destiny is to return to the homeland. I think the poster outed themsleves by posting a barage of her stuff.

Like this ;

Considering some of the X and Instagram accounts that have been linked to on this board, that could be said for a lot of posters.

I don’t actually follow her on X (I barely follow anyone not that I have to prove anything to you) but there are accounts like hers who do actually post stuff with evidence such as the videos I posted which I seen before and searched for in response to posters saying what I said was not true and it just happens that her account had quite a few videos on there. Anything posted contrary to the majority narrative on here is dismissed as bias or lies. Let’s face it a lot of this stuff is not mentioned in the MSM and you could wonder why.

I am not Israeli or Jewish btw but do have connections with experience of the region.

No comment on the actual videos?

Do you think they are fake?

Seems like a massive deflection to me.

I stand by my opinion that anyone who wants to give a view on this conflict or have an understanding of where both the Palestinians and the Israelis ended up in the situation they are in now, should research BOTH sides experiences and those videos are pretty relevant IMO.

It’s the same with the conclusion reached by military experts, who have been in Gaza before and during this current conflict, no comment and barely reported on in MSM.