To find the silence about UNRWA being Hamas hypocritical

[Muthaofcats]

I entirely understand the discomfort seeing images coming out of Gaza; but what I don’t get is those who choose to post about it on social media or campaign expressing their horror but being totally SILENT after October 7th (before Israeli had even responded), after evidence of the sexual violence suffered by those murdered in Israel and now, after finding out that UNWRA who they have all been sending donations to, are actually Hamas who perpetrated the atrocities.

Where is the outrage from these people at UNRWA?

Why are none of these vocal people not screaming from the roof tops at how horrendous this is !?! If it was true you care about humanity, why aren’t you horrified to learn you’ve all been donating to an organisation so closely linked to the rape and murder of innocent civilians ? (And this isn’t the first time unrwa has been linked to Hamas; their HQ is a Hamas building and they’ve famously been linked to training terrorists in their schools / got into hot water for removing the hollocaust from their curriculum)

if you are one of those white privileged women who posts on social media about a cease fire (I’m talking to those of you who have never been to the ME, or studied ME history and never taken up the cause of any of the other global conflicts); why is your outrage so one sided and blinkered ? Why don’t you acknowledge the horrors of the Israeli/ Jewish people too ? If you’re really the virtuous person you purport to be by taking up this cause, why don’t you care ? Or do you believe what Hamas did and are doing and promising to keep doing (murder all Jews) is justified ?

Genuinely find it bewildering.

Unsure whether this has been mentioned. Saw it in Spanish newspaper

Al Jazeera reports on journalistic failure in Wall Street Journal article

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240206-al-jazeera-reports-on-journalistic-failure-in-wall-street-journal-article/amp/

I expect if it's been seen before it's been mentioned.

Oh my... the co-author explains a whole lot! Thank you for posting this

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So “UNWRA doesn’t claim to have the capacity to vet its staff … “
“Once a year it gives a list to Israel and asks them to do the vetting process.. “ Once a year ?
I can definitely see how that system is flawed…

It’s pretty obvious to me that it would be in Hamas interests to have as much influence in UNRWA activities in Gaza as possible…
Yes - “links with Hamas” is a vague term and it’s not going to be easy to find the definitive proof in a time of conflict and confusion.
Who, in Gaza, is going to snitch on Hamas sympathisers/ members / supporters who are working for UNRWA?
Truth is the first casualty of war.
But common sense suggests Hamas will have infiltrated any group working in Gaza.

Edited to say - that doesn’t mean UNRWA doesn’t do important work in Gaza and it’s a horrible dilemma to think that the resources given to support the civilians in Gazan might be diverted to support Hamas activities.

How many times should they be vetted? I'm vetted every three years by my employer (child protection). I'm sure UNWRA would provide a list more frequently if requested

So the alternative is no group should be working in Gaza? Because Hamas will infiltrate them all. I really don't understand what you are suggesting happens instead?

Clearly if Israel don't flag any of the terrorists they accuse UNRWA of harbouring. How can they say this problem goes back decades and that they have evidence of this but never tell UNRWA who these terrorists are? It's a bizarre move from Israel. UNRWA have proven that they will fire people on Israels word alone, they did that a few weeks ago so why do Israel keep silent?

Im not sure the vetting process across two hostile territories in a time of conflict is as straightforward as child protection vetting is in the UK

I’m not suggesting anything -I don’t know the answer .
I’m just saying it’s no surprise that Hamas would infiltrate any organisation in their territory . I don’t understand why some of you are incensed at the idea that there are Hamas supporters in UNRWA in Gaza

More up to date information by UN watch. Will post if link doesn't work.

www.instagram.com/p/C3A8H_8Nmuf/?igsh=MWhnMmc0ODBkNHBtZg==

Maybe there are security elements involved in naming people.. I just think it must be pretty impossible to keep Hamas operatives out of any organisation that is active in Gaza. It’s an ethical dilemma- support the children and vulnerable in Gaza ( whilst also providing a level of influence for Hamas in terms of education etc) or leave the Gazan people without any outside support and help?

Nope no safeguarding issues there...nothing to see....la la la (fingers in ears).

So you are saying maybe it is safer for Israel to leave the terrorists in UNRWA instead of telling their employer. That it is safer to try and get the whole organisation shut down while inducing a famine and leave Palestinians to starve to death. I mean it might be safer for Israelis I suppose if everyone in Gaza dies but it seems a bit extremist.

I'm incensed that countries have pulled their funding during a humanitarian crisis with people at risk of dying from starvation. I said numerous times on these threads that there isn't time to wait for the conclusion of the investigation, the suspected employees have been dismissed so funding needs to be reinstated and aid needs to get through.The investigation is being conducted and hopefully better vetting systems established but funding shouldn't stop while it is

Do you think it matters that all the Gazans who work for UNRWA are unaffiliated to the Hamas government?

Yes - I can understand the argument that the humanitarian crisis is so terrible we must not pull funding now but wait for the investigation later.
I don’t accept that Hamas have not infiltrated UNRWA

I'm not sure I understand your question but if they work for UNWRA I don't think they would be working for the Hamas government. Is that what you mean?

I saw the other day a thread about someone going through the proof provided by unwatch and some info that might not be correct

https://twitter.com/eshaLegal/status/1751961293152768427

I genuinely don't know if they have or not but I do think UNWRA must have had a good reason to dismiss the employees suspected we just need to establish the extent of the infiltration and if they have and as a citizen of a country that is still funding UNWRA I would expect my government to work with the UN and UNWRA to ensure everything possible is done to prevent it happening again. But I am glad my government do continue to fund them in the meantime

No - I don’t think anyone would be overtly working for both. I mean that Hamas government has influence over UNWRA operatives in Gaza
That doesn’t mean I think funding should be pulled during a humanitarian crisis - but there needs to be some careful external monitoring

I've looked (admittedly quite briefly) at some of the earlier reports and there seems to be a lack of clarity about what they actually mean by Hamas and what they mean by affiliation. Hamas tends to be used as a shorthand for the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades but as people are often keen to point out when it comes to casualty numbers, the MoH and most other structures in Gaza are "Hamas". And some reports talk about "close relatives" being affiliated - again, what do they mean by "affiliated" , and in high fertility communities such as Gaza people will have many close relatives. There are so many shades with "Hamas affiliation" - I should think everyone in Gaza has some sort of affiliation through family. Obviously any evidence of involvement if violence needs to be investigated fully (as it is being), but people need to define their terms.

I mean that Hamas government has influence over UNWRA operatives in Gaza
Yes I would imagine that is likely and probably true of any external organisation working in a hostile environment but I would like to think these organisations have risk assessments for such activity and safeguarding against it. Although no where near as complex, I work for a community organisation in a disadvantaged community and local politicians consistently try to influence what we do/say/ report about certain situations so I can only imagine how difficult it is trying to operate in Gaza