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*TW - Rape* 13 year old Palestinian boys rape covered up by Israeli Government

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whoiswhat · 13/12/2023 21:51

Why on earth is this not front page news!!

Not only was this poor child raped but the Israeli government shut down the human rights group that spoke up, stole their computers and labelled it a terrorist organisation the day after the accusations were brought to them by US State Department Official who investigated and labelled the allegations credible.

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He speaks on it at 8:55 and Christine Amanpour ignored what he said and changed the subject. Absolutely disgraceful.

Further reports from save the children - pre Oct 7th detailing how Palestinian children are strip searched and touched in a sexual nature whilst detained in Israel. It also details the beatings and other abuse children receive.
The children in this report were between the ages of 12 and 17 when this abuse occurred.

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian

Thousands of Palestinian children raped, abused, assaulted and not a single word.

Why?

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Hippodogamus · 13/12/2023 23:47

Yeah rape has happened on both sides. Both sides are ridiculous, the whole thing is a mess. I’m getting sick of these threads now.

Hopefully one day everyone will learn from what’s happened. They will learn to think for themselves. They will want true peace.

Fizzadora · 13/12/2023 23:59

Thousands of Palestinian children raped, abused, assaulted and not a single word.

Why?

Why? Because he's not Israeli. Because he's not Jewish. Because he's an Arab. Because he's Palestinian.

Deniers will deny but that's the cold hard truth. Their lives don't matter to most Westerners and their governments. Only those that resemble Westerners matter.

Sadly they don't seem to matter to Hamas either, nor do all those innocent civilians who are casualties of the IDF.
There will be no ceasefire until the IDF are satisfied that they have dismantled Hamas and possibly not even then as there will always be more terrorists waiting in the wings with the intention of repeating the October massacre as they have vowed to do.
Objectors to the actions of the IDF would do better in supporting the Palestinian people in overthrowing Hamas and ending the bloodshed.... that is course if they want that.
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whoiswhat · 14/12/2023 00:10

Fizzadora · 13/12/2023 23:59

Thousands of Palestinian children raped, abused, assaulted and not a single word.

Why?

Why? Because he's not Israeli. Because he's not Jewish. Because he's an Arab. Because he's Palestinian.

Deniers will deny but that's the cold hard truth. Their lives don't matter to most Westerners and their governments. Only those that resemble Westerners matter.

Sadly they don't seem to matter to Hamas either, nor do all those innocent civilians who are casualties of the IDF.
There will be no ceasefire until the IDF are satisfied that they have dismantled Hamas and possibly not even then as there will always be more terrorists waiting in the wings with the intention of repeating the October massacre as they have vowed to do.
Objectors to the actions of the IDF would do better in supporting the Palestinian people in overthrowing Hamas and ending the bloodshed.... that is course if they want that.
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The children that were raped and abused were raped and abused by the IDF pre-Oct 7th how are you blaming the rape of children by the IDF on Hamas?

How are you blaming the cover up by the Israeli government on Hamas?

Do you not condemn the IDF for raping children? Do you support child rape?

Hamas are terrible.

You not accepting the depraved behaviour of the IDF and Israeli government is sickening.

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mondriansdog · 14/12/2023 07:59

Abominable from the IDF. What else did we expect though given their nasty track record? Inexcusable.

FOJN · 14/12/2023 08:12

Sadly this is nothing new. It's well documented by international charities and aid agencies.

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-on-palestinian-children--

Israel also holds the record for detaining the youngest child, an 11 month old and her 2 year old sibling. They were separated from their mother and all three were detained when the family went to visit the father who was being detained without charge. They were imprisoned in November 2014, this article was written in December 2014 when it seems they were still being held.

https://www.trebuchet-magazine.com/11-months-old-jailed-israel/

mondriansdog · 14/12/2023 08:16

@FOJN 11 months old? 2 years? That's beyond cruel and ridiculous.

No amount of propaganda can hide how awfully they behave.

Struggggggling · 14/12/2023 18:07

I've posted about this on multiple threads, and not a single Pro-Israel person has expressed any sadness let alone condemned it. Its just met with whataboutery and Hamas.

I have never seen this level of blind loyalty and Nationalism, it really is Israel above all else.

mondriansdog · 14/12/2023 18:16

@Struggggggling I just came across this video by Vice on the topic of Israeli nationalism.

The Dangerous Rise of Israeli Ultra-Nationalists | Decade of Hate

I've not watched it yet but adding it to my watch list for later.

The unwavering support for such regimes is disturbing.

The Dangerous Rise of Israeli Ultra-Nationalists | Decade of Hate

2022 was the deadliest year in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories in over a decade – and the violence is only increasing. Israel itself has been...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6APCbtpdds

Thenewmags · 14/12/2023 18:21

Struggggggling · 14/12/2023 18:07

I've posted about this on multiple threads, and not a single Pro-Israel person has expressed any sadness let alone condemned it. Its just met with whataboutery and Hamas.

I have never seen this level of blind loyalty and Nationalism, it really is Israel above all else.

I am literally feeling physically unwell at what I’ve read on this thread alone and I didn’t even click onto the link that OP shared. This is just horrific. I don’t even knoW what else to say.

As Biden more or less alluded to earlier, the world is fast losing sympathy for Netanyahu’s extremist government.

Struggggggling · 14/12/2023 18:41

Thenewmags · 14/12/2023 18:21

I am literally feeling physically unwell at what I’ve read on this thread alone and I didn’t even click onto the link that OP shared. This is just horrific. I don’t even knoW what else to say.

As Biden more or less alluded to earlier, the world is fast losing sympathy for Netanyahu’s extremist government.

Reading some of these threads it really doesn't feel like the support for Israel is waning. I'm shocked that every day people living here in the UK can read about systemic child rape and shrug their shoulders.

The last two have been a real eye opener for me.

Struggggggling · 14/12/2023 18:43

mondriansdog · 14/12/2023 18:16

@Struggggggling I just came across this video by Vice on the topic of Israeli nationalism.

The Dangerous Rise of Israeli Ultra-Nationalists | Decade of Hate

I've not watched it yet but adding it to my watch list for later.

The unwavering support for such regimes is disturbing.

Thank you, I will watch it, you may be interested in this article - it seems the younger generation endorse the sitting extremist right wing government the most. I worry about what they're being taught to grow up this way

https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/2/23/23609584/israel-right-wing-young-voters-palestine

A protester holds a placard with a photo of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as he protests against the Israeli government’s plan for dramatic justice reform on January 8, 2023, in Tel Aviv, Israel. 

How Israeli youth helped usher in the farthest right-wing government ever

Young voters are often more liberal than their grandparents. Not in Israel, a new poll finds.

https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/2/23/23609584/israel-right-wing-young-voters-palestine

FPNFL · 14/12/2023 18:56

Struggggggling · 14/12/2023 18:07

I've posted about this on multiple threads, and not a single Pro-Israel person has expressed any sadness let alone condemned it. Its just met with whataboutery and Hamas.

I have never seen this level of blind loyalty and Nationalism, it really is Israel above all else.

They never do.
The callousness has realy left me speechless.
Any time anyone speaks about Palestinians as human beings, they ignore it - pass it over like nothing was said.
It’s actually very scary.

ChickHenLittle · 14/12/2023 19:01

How utterly disgusting that someone immediately jumps in with an article about Hamas. The instant attempts to derail are very telling.

@Struggggggling I don't think there is a lot of support for Israel at all (in the UK, at least). Maintaining awareness of the crimes of the IDF, such as this thread, is helpful too, I feel. Many people probably don't realise just how badly and inhumanely they treat Palestinians.

Parkingt111 · 14/12/2023 19:27

I don't think some of the views we see on here are generally reflective of wider society.
In reality I would hope that most people do empathise and feel horror reading about such things regardless of what ethnicity or race the victim is.
There is a reason why the overwhelming majority voted for a ceasefire and I think that's a better indicator than comments on here

Parkingt111 · 14/12/2023 19:29

So please don't feel disheartened
Also remember there's probably alot more people who read but don't comment

mondriansdog · 14/12/2023 20:46

Struggggggling · 14/12/2023 18:43

Thank you, I will watch it, you may be interested in this article - it seems the younger generation endorse the sitting extremist right wing government the most. I worry about what they're being taught to grow up this way

https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/2/23/23609584/israel-right-wing-young-voters-palestine

thank you I will definitely have a read of it in a mo! Sounds really interesting. Scary times for all right now with these extremist right wingers around.

MandyCandy · 14/12/2023 21:00

I've heard plenty of people say they support Palestine, I've never heard anyone support Israel in real life. Don't lost hope. People can be cruel but people can be incredibly humane and caring too.

zoomiboomie · 15/12/2023 07:49

The point is we are being told all about Hamas crimes. Israel holds themselves as the victims and the ones who have the moral high ground. That's the whole point that seems to have gone over your head.

Fairylightfurore · 15/12/2023 08:34

It's awful. As are the many many stories coming out of Israeli women and girls being raped in this conflict. It's never ok and yes every single case should be reported but to my knowledge none are given much airtime.

Auvergne63 · 23/02/2024 10:36

Overstudy · 13/12/2023 22:06

Are you going to be as upset as that story OP 🤔

I am upset at the rape/sexual abuse of any children. Full stop.
Are you? Your posts seem to show that you are but only if they are Israeli.

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