4 NICU babies left to die by Israeli forces

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Some more in depth coverage of what happened to the four little babies in the NICU in Nasr Hospital and how they were left to die alone with nobody looking after them.

This is one of the most gruesome things I've ever heard and to be honest for the first day or so I didn't think it could be true. I didn't think even Israel could be this barbaric (though these aren't the first premature NICU babies they've killed in this conflict so I should probably not be so naive).

I can't understand how they can do this. And still they're supported by the UK and US.

Will this story appear on the televised news anywhere? I haven't seen it.

Warning: the descriptions in the article of the condition the bodies were found in are graphic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/03/gaza-premature-babies-dead-nasr/

You’re saying that you’re not far-right, whilst defending the actions of an army led by a far-right government.

I get that people are worried about antisemitism and they’re concerned that the hard of thinking believe that the Israeli govt = all Jewish people, so they then jump on threads like these trying to defend the indefensible because of that worry.

However, it just has the opposite effect, where people see how little to zero empathy towards Palestinian deaths comes from the pro-Israel posters. It makes posters who support Israel as a country look like people who also, de facto, support the government and the actions of the IDF.

It is not a good look.

It is perfectly possible to be for Israel as a country whilst also criticising the government and actions of the IDF and showing empathy and pain for deaths on both sides of the fence. You should try it.

How were they proven as false? There was testimony from a first responder about the baby believed to have been put in an oven. I think I’ll take him at his word as a professional.

The beheadings have not been verified due to the state of the bodies and that they were burnt but without heads from what I read.

Easily googleable.

Did you read about the family, including two children, whose body parts were cut off while they were alive, at their dinner table and then they were shot before their killers ate their lunch?

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-hamas-gaza-militants-ate-lunch-tortured-mutilated-young-family-2023-10?amp

Don’t believe it? I bet you would if they hadn’t been Israelis?

It is utterly disgusting that the IDF have the orders to leave the hospital, we made aware of four babies and promised to let them out, and then left them to die alone in agony.

Hamas is not to blame for this specific incident. This time, it is IDF. How indoctrinated do you have to be to not be able to hold your own 'side' to account for this.

There's no way of twisting this one to be Hamas.

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Agree. Empathy for death of Palestinian AND Jewish babies is not mutually exclusive. It's called being a human who is capable of nuanced thinking and empathy

Right decision, only so much repetitive gaslighting that people can take.
Hope that you had a good rest. @OneHurtSpaggettio was a BOSS using their sledgehammer of truths versus their wall of lies x

I can quite well believe the horrors reported to have been committed by Hamas because Hamas are sick fuckers. I can also well believe the horrors committed by IDF because killing thousands of children, even remotely from a comfortable safe control room, is horrific.
We have sick fuckers fighting with sick fuckers. I despair for the world when we can do this to each other.

It's not my side. The whole thing is awful.

Misusing hospitals and general civilians by Hamas violates my very core beliefs of humanity. The war conventions were agreed to make potential wars less horrible, but they come with a set of agreements and preconditions. Knowingly removing neutrality status from their own hospital is vile.

Why did IDF promise to transport the babies and then leave them to die @ZiriForGood?

That is the only thing that is relevant in this situation. We all know Hamas do terrible things. By choosing to ignore the appalling behaviour of the IDF, you are choosing a side.

How dare people on here blame that nurse? He saved the only baby he felt he could reasonably save and then had to flee himself.

@CuteOrangeElephant agree! The poor nurse will live with his decision every day. He literally didn't have a choice and did what he could with what he had.

It's the same things as when someone jumps infront of a train. The train driver can not do anything about it, its not their fault, but will be scarred by it for the rest of their life.

They will blame anyone except for IDF. If it comes to it, they will blame the babies for being in the ICU in the first place.

All those saying what about hamas etc. Have you asked yourself where hamas came from? Why they are there? If Palestinians had been left alone and there was no Nakba. Its likely there would be no hamas.

I’ve had to evacuate babies out a NICU before due to a fire. The ones on ventilators you have to bag and mask them constantly. which is dangerous and difficult enough when you are fleeing down the corridor through two fire doors to another ward. Would be impossible into a rubble filled war zone.

and I believe the IDF said to the nurses they would do. it. So the nurses believed them and thought that was best.

Not just no Nakba but no ongoing violence, no ongoing indiscriminate murder, no illegal imprisonment and fair justice, no settlement expansion, no apartheid system.

"But Hamas" is such a convenient cover up for Israels constant crimes

@Chaitales thank you. Yes I meant to add I mean the original nakba in 1948. Hamas wouldn't exist if thus hadn't of happened.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0ZkMEfAxoO/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

A sad message from the hospital where the babies were killed.

It’s a massive task to move a premature baby on oxygen. They need to be properly set up in a special travel incubator with lots of equipment and monitors. The stress of moving them even in this ideal environment puts a big toll on their tiny and very fragile bodies. Nobody with the resources to do so turned up with what was needed and they died. They were left
to die. Their lives weren’t valued.

@BelleHathor Can you point me to the post where that poster was a "BOSS". I can't see one

Does it matter now where they came from? They knowingly turned a hospital into military operations object.

Yes it does matter @ZiriForGood that's the reason all this is happening. Hamas is a result of the nakba in 1948.

If israel doesn't want extremists ans terrorists then they shouldn't put a group.of.people in an open air prison. Ratio electricity and water and food for 75 years, steal homes, kill innocent People and arrest children. Its like breeding people to become terrorists.

If someone came and did these things to you would you just sit there and accept it? Eventually people will do anything they can to break free.

You need to know how and why something has happened, to understand why the result has come around.

Literally the way we are supposed to learn from mistakes. But no one wants to understand why something happens. Then shock horror.... history repeats itself. Over and over and over.

@backtowinter All of their posts calling out the repetition of debunked propaganda.

However the post calling for self reflection of some of the pro Israel side was particularly poignant.

Especially the observation that a lot of people are going to see the "Heartless" comments and judge Jewish people as a whole. They won't be sophisticated enough to know/distinguish that Israeli is not equal to Jewish. That's sad.

Well said. No one wants to see why it has happened but focus on from just 7th of October. People need to realise this is only going to create more people who will seek revenge. Families are being wiped out, generations are being wiped out. We as humans want justice for when we're wronged, just like the people of Palestine will want it for years to come. Innocent babies and elderly are not collateral damage.

@Livelovelaugh028384 thank you! They want to focus on Oct 7th as it suits the narrative!