Why is Israeli bombing refugee camps in Gaza?

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Dozens dead

It certainly makes you wonder doesn't it?

I don't think that Israel allowed it, or knew that it was coming. They have certainly taken advantage of it, as an excuse to smash Gaza and it looks as though they mean to annex more of it, going by Netanyahu's statement that Gaza will be smaller, when they've finished.

next time some of you say why aren’t they moving to the south , the south is safe … remember this

I think you are giving the Western government far too much credit here - assuming that they feel guilt to the extent they need to transfer it onto the murdering of other people. Historically, they don't give a toss (and I mean specifically UK here), they need to bolster Israel for diplomatic relations pure and simple.

I can't believe i was deleted but it confirms what i posted about.

Will they blame hamas on this one as well?
israel bombs a truck carrying water bottles
https://twitter.com/MuhammadSmiry/status/1721956635801723138/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1721956635801723138&currentTweetUser=MuhammadSmiry

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@Ecdysiast I wonder where about's in all that the hostages are?

@Stomacharmeleon Good point, but I don't think Netanyahu cares - it's clear that saving the hostages is not his priority.

https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/status/1721823190551535791?t=dhAWd9mGa97T5hB-ogGwGw&s=19

The IDF footage shown on this link.

Palestinians are being forcibly removed. We know how thisnis going to end. How the fuck is the world standing by and watching this happen?

*The genocide supporters will be on to say this is not verified and ask for a source I'm sure and to reiterate that the Palestinian people deserve this. Don't bother. Thanks.

@Stomacharmeleon and @Ecdysiast this is the latest on the hostage negotiations

Biden urged Netanyahu to agree to three-day pause in fighting

Joe Biden urged Benjamin Netanyahu to agree to a three-day pause in fighting to allow progress in releasing some of the hostages held by Hamas, according to an Axios report, citing two US and Israel officials.

Citing the US official, Axios reported that under a proposal that is being discussed between the US, Israel and Qatar, Hamas would release 10-15 hostages. They would also use the three-day pause to verify the identities of all the hostages and deliver a list of names of the people it is holding, the official said.

During the call on Monday, Netanyahu told Biden that he does not trust Hamas’ intentions and doesn not believe they are ready to agree to a deal regarding the hostages, the two US and Israeli officials sai

I am repeating myself as I have just said on the other thread.... I would want proof of life for all of them. I don't get or believe the vague Hamas line of ' what aren't sure where they are'..... of course they do.

And what happens if Israel have killed some of them?

@Stomacharmeleon And I'm sure Hamas will want some information from Israel on the whereabouts and well-being of the THOUSANDS of Palestinian political prisoners (from the West Bank as well as Gaza) being held hostage by Israel, including 160 children.

@Efacsen they just need to say they are dead. That's all. To give the families peace. I don't deny that's likely.
@Ecdysiast I don't think Israel denies they are in prison. It's not a secret. There is no denial or 'we only attacked conscripts'.
It's the not knowing other side. I agree with letting families know their loved ones are ok.

Would civilians leaving or being removed from an area about to become more of a conflict zone not be a least worst thing?

Oh yes. Ethnic cleansing is marvellous.

Oh yes. Ethnic cleansing is marvellous.

You'd rather they stayed to be killed?

I see what you are saying @SomeCatFromJapan but we also saw what happened when people were told to move south before this forcible removement. Many of them are no longer alive. They will become a moving target. Israel will have no compunction and will more than likely target them. For Israel this is a benefit as hey, less Palestinians and on they carry with their ethnic cleansing. It's horrific to see and we can't do anything to stop it.

It's a impossible choice for some
Not everyone has the option. The UN were saying they can barely even handle the refugee camps anymore. There are around 600 people using one toilet.
And the south is still being bombed. Many people totally miss that out.

Well no I think I'd go for the "I'd rather civilians weren't bombed" option. It's pretty easy to stop bombing children and hospitals.

Some people would choose to die in the dignity of their home
Than die homeless and humiliated in the streets
Nowhere is safe in Gaza. Yes some places are slightly safer than others but there's no guarantee you won't be killed in the south either.

It sounds from the 'report' I posted that a lot of basic admin hasn't been done yet ie

Name, DOB, ID No, Photo then alive/deceased/missing for each person

and that was one reason why Biden was suggesting a 3 day 'pause' to fill in the gaps

Israel will soon know the identity of the 25-30 dead hostages they retrieved about a fortnight ago to add to the data provided by Hamas

And of course it will be so much better for the families to know all this

@Ecdysiast I am not doubting what you are saying but that throws up some questions doesn't it?
If that many hostages have been retrieved surely they would know by now who they are? Two weeks is a long time and the 'number' hasn't really altered at all.

I thought Israel had already told the families of the hostages that they had retrieved?
When they first retrieved the bodies?