Second cycle after CP- CD16: Failed to ovulate and spotting? Help! (sensitive images!)

[LucyCL]

Everything was on track until today. My BBT stays elevated and today is CD16. I expected to have LH surge but instead LH level has decreased a bit. I am not surprised about it because my body failed to attempt to ovulate for 3 times before I got LH surge last cycle after CP.
However I didn't expect to see a bit of fresh blood in the tissue when I wiped down there. So I inserted the tampon just to make sure it was real. It is indeed blood. I believe I am spotting.
I have never experienced it during mid cycle and I have checked everything about my body and my hormone levels which are all normal.
I don't know what is going on, please help!

One more thing - last night when I inserted OvuSense inside, I felt slippery and wet.

My CB fertility monitor still says "High" and my LH level dropped but not that much.

@LucyCL hi, firstly sorry about your loss❤️‍🩹
Could this possibly be ovulation bleeding? It’s not something I’ve experienced but I’ve heard about it.
Sending you lots of luck. X

When I had a lh peak it was very strong, stronger than the control line. Did you have that in your first cycle? If so I would guess that you haven’t ovulated yet but I could be wrong.

For the post CP cycle, I did get a LH peak when the line was much stronger than the control line so this new cycle I don't think I have ovulated yet. I was expecting to get the LH surge but instead it dropped a bit. My BBT stayed the same though. I wonder if I will get a peak soon.

@LucyCL good luck and hopefully you will. It’s good that you are tracking bbt as well to confirm afterwards if ovulation occured.

Thank you! I will use BBT and LH strips to confirm ovulation. This spotting turned out to be a withdrawal bleeding caused by a sudden drop in all my hormones. Now I am waiting patiently for the LH level to go up again. At least no more spotting.

@LucyCL how is it all going? Did you ovulate?

Today is the O day based on my apps. Or yesterday?
Do you treat the Peak day as the O day? or the day after the peak?😂

@LucyCL I missed this post.

So before today I would have said the peak day is the day before ovulation. However now I have no idea with my cramping. Online it says the peak happens ~ 24hrs before ovulation. Some says 24-36hrs but I think peak it’s ~24hrs. It says different in different places.I guess you have to be sure you caught your peak too at the right time, it could have happened hours before then so then ovulation comes sooner? That’s not specifically to you just a general comment, I wonder with mine sometimes.

My app is saying I’ve had my peak but the line isn’t as dark as the control like yours or like my previous times. So I’m unsure. Maybe it will rise to peak tomorrow or maybe I missed it.

You had high on cd21 and 22, the cd21 also looks like the test and control are equal so it could be a peak. That’s tricky, I would guess today is ovulation for you. I could be wrong and it could be tomorrow.

Thank you for sharing your chart! What is your normal peak? Is it above 1 usually?

Today my LH has been decreasing so I got my peak on CD21 in the late evening then CD22 for the whole day. This morning it was not positive anymore. Tomorrow I will use Mira to confirm ovulation. If my pdg is above 5, then ovulation happened.
It is always hard to tell when you ovulate after you get the peak.

I have this feeling that you will get your real peak soon.

@LucyCL yes, or almost. Let me add in my other two, these are from 2022 when I first started tracking. The cd NA cycle is the one I conceived and had ds. I will add the bbt chart for it too if you want (the bbt is to match the cd NA cycle. I did stop bbt a few days after that ovulation due to going on holiday.

I am looking at your BBT chart and comparing it to mine, that makes me believe that the day when we get BBT dip is the O day. Because BBT rises after ovulation.
I hope you will get the peak soon!!

@LucyCL my lh strips have gone low again now so I don’t know if it’s ovulation day today or if it tried and failed to release an egg and it will again soon. I’m hoping bbt will be helpful if it rises in the next 1-2 days, if it doesn’t I will assume it will build back up to it again and I need to continue testing.

Has your body failed to ovulate before? Mine failed 3-4 times in the post CP cycle and the current one.

@LucyCL I guess the cycle directly after my miscarriage/surgery I lm not sure if I did because of the symptoms and the almost non existent bleeding for AF. That’s what made me start tracking, I wanted to know if I had ovulated.

I possibly have ovulated, it’s just that I have always seen the lh test line darker than the control in previous cycles. This time it said high 0.81, so it’s just if that’s strong enough to release the egg or whatever else lh does? I suppose I could have missed the highest point, I checked four times in the day.

Are you also in the second cycle after your MC? 0.81 is a good number if your LH continues to rise. I remember you are also using the wrist temperature to track BBT, is that correct?

@LucyCL sorry no, I had the mc in 2022 then conceived my son three months after that. I used lh tests and bbt then because my periods were incredibly light after the miscarriage, so I tracked to check if I was ovulating.

I am in my second cycle after stopping the mini pill though. The first cycle after a proper period.

Oh yes I’m using the wrist temperature and bbt too.

No my lh tests have completely dropped now back to nothing. I have attached a photo of my tests.

I see. You conceived 3 months after MC which gives me hope. I came off the BC pill last April and didn't track my LH levels until last October. I am sorry I can't help you to find out why your LH is dropping but I have been told that you are quite fertile within the first two months after you stop the pills.
The reason why I didn't ttc until last October was because I wanted to give 6 months for my body to get back to normal.

Ah, I realised that you tested LH quite frequently on CD16 and CD17. Could your urine be diluted to cause LH to drop?
It is better to test LH in the morning and in the afternoon.

Yes maybe it was the timing or maybe it was a bit diluted.

I hope you get good news this cycle. What day are you on now? Is it 2dpo? So hopefully not too long to wait to find out.