16 DPO, high temp, AF due tomorrow

[RCARB]

Hi All,

Got myself in a bit if a tiz - this TWW as been awful.

Have been trying on and off for a very stressful 18 months, all without a sniff of a BFP.

But this month I have felt so different. After O (tested with CB O test and temping). Had soooo many symptoms; nausea, cramps, bad taste in mouth, headaches, creamy cm and dizziness all varying from 5DPO until today (16 DPO). As I have never normally experienced any of this during the TWW I have been convinced I would be seeing BFP soon. Temp has been measuring high (and still is today) but after getting a BFN today when I tested, im worried I've just imagined all of it. I used CB early detection and It wasn't with my first urine of the day (I was trying to hold out until Tuesday if no AF Tomorrow....I failed!).
As Im slowly driving myself mad, I was just wondering if anyone got BFN at this point and went onto the see BFP? Could it be that I didn't use first urine of the day??

Clutching at straws I guess, but there is always hope until AF arrives

Rebecca x x x

I hate to ask the obvious but have you done a test?? If AF still not here of course! I hope you either get a positive test or else AF hurries up and shows! Xx

@mushroomushroom Af arrived this morning in full force 😖.

Been on the phone most of the morning trying to get an appointment at my GP. Sounds like I'm asking for a winning lotto ticket the reaction I'm getting.

We go again dear....💜

@RCARB 😭😭 I'm so sorry, it's it's so bloody cruel when your period is a little late even though you know it's on its way, it's impossible not to hope even a little.

Keep on trying at the GP, don't let them fob you off.

This coming month you can see how you go with the preseed :) I think changing it up a little bit can help give you a bit of hope/something to look forward to. I know how ridiculously trite that sounds but it does help me to imagine that I'm doing something slightly different each month, it helps keep the emotions in check/stop the massive panic from rising. Sending you lots of love xxx

@mushroomushroom It was actually right on time in the end. The spotting before just threw me off completely . Never had it before.

This has been the most painful AF I have had in years. I've been sick, had a terrible stomach and the cramps 😭. Im hoping day 2 takes it easier on me.

I've decided to change GP surgery (as my current one is ridiculous), so I registered yesterday and should have an appointment next week 🤞🏻.

Yes, I definitely agree! I'm constantly looking for something new to try or a little something extra I can be doing to help.

Thanks for listening to my crazy body problems and keeping me sane, I find it so hard to discuss these things with people in my life.

Sending lots of love, luck aand of course fun for the new cycle!!

Fingers crossed this is a month for us . 🤞🏻💜

@RCARB ugh I hope today has been easier for you!!! That's awful that it's been such an awful one for you this time :/

That's good that you have an appointment with a different GP!! Have a look on here for questions to ask!

And it's great having someone to talk to who is going through the same things :) I'm on CD 8 today, should ovulate after the weekend (good timing 😜), I'll keep you posted on how I get on this cycle! I'm medium hopeful as usual, but it's up and down. If it doesn't work this time then it's IUI next month!

I feel so stupid but I always wanted a winter baby, I used to feel so bad for the kids in my class in school who has their birthdays in the summer, and it's something I've been thinking about cause if we conceive in the next months I will (hopefully!) be having a baby in the summer. Just another one of the mental things my mind goes round to during this awful waiting game 😅

Xx

Thankyou! Its been an awful week with terrible period pains and just feeling generally very sad. Feeling alot better today though and ready to take control again. Decided im going to try and focus on me abir more this cycle. Get myself a bit healthier and try and lose abit of weight and get to the GP. It sounds so silly but I think I just need something else to focus on and try and not obsess so much about TTC and getting healthier can't hurt.

Haha, im the complete opposite. My husband and I are both winter babies (both around xmas) so we would love a summer baby, but obviously now I will take whatever season I can get 🤣. I think everyone has those little mental blocks and like you say its another thing to think about
..over and over again!! 🥴.

Good luck!! I have everything crossed for you This cycle!!!! Keep me posted 💜 xx

@RCARB I'm glad you're feeling a bit better now! That's a good idea to focus on getting healthier, eating well and doing some exercise works wonders for the aul mind (which is quite hypocritical of me to say as I'm a lazy arse, but when I do it I know how much better I feel 😂).

I'm 1dpo now or am ovulating today, last night I had terrible pains, almost like period pain, turns out it was diarrhoea and I was up all night with horrendous cramps 😬

It's so funny how we feel differently about what season baby we'd like 😁 although obviously of course I would be thrilled with any season baby!!

I'm feeling really positive about this cycle, going to try and keep the good mood up cause it can't hurt in any case! I mean except for the crushing disappointment if it doesn't work this month, but that's ok, I'm pretty used to it 😂 I had a massive peak on the OPK yesterday morning, and I think I ovulate quite quickly after (I'm not temping this month, but previous months have suggested it).

I hope you're having a good Monday ☺️ xxx

On Sunday morning I was full of motivation and plans for all the healthy eating and exercise I was going to do during the week ahead. Monday morning came and with it all the motivation had gone 🤣. Im going to try to get into it in hope that it makes me feel a bit better about myself. Im not massively overweight but could do with losing around a stone. Cant do any harm to try and get a bit healthier....she says sat on her bum eating crisps 🤣

Oh no! Thats no good and not ideal timing when you are trying to DTD 😖. Are you feeling better now? I had a terrible stomach during AF last week but at the time I just thought it was period belly but I actually think it was a bug now. There is so much going around. Hope your feeling better!

Ahhh that's fab! Hope you are still in that positive mindset?! Are you not temping for any particular reason? This cycle I haven't started temping again either, it was getting on my nerves fretting about it so much and think it was effecting my sleep worrying to remember to do it before I dare to move a muscle in bed!!

Happy Tuesday! Hope your having a good week!! 😘 x x x

I hear ya with regards to healthy eating and getting exercise in 🤣 I did a dance video on Monday evening, felt very proud of myself and actually felt great, last night I was just knackered when I got home, lay on the bed and got up to make dinner before DP got home. Having salads for dinner these days but I absolutely love the dressing and croutons so last night we calculated the calories in our "healthy" salads and they came out quite high 🤣 I don't mind though, at least it's plenty of veggies and cheese and stuff. I do love crisps too though, those are definitely my weakness 😂 I'm trying to have porridge every morning with linseeds and chia seeds and pumpkin seeds, and I actually feel amazing when I manage it (the regularity of bowel movements is the best). I'm also not exactly overweight but I also need to lose about a stone to get back to "feeling like myself".

I'm feeling miles better now, thank you!! Most of the time I'm also feeling positive! We missed last month cause I was traveling for work, so I got a break from the TWW (although I was still testing cause we DTD like a week before ov, which was a bit silly😅).

Temping was really messing with my sleep, I would wake several times during the night and take my temp each time, convinced it was morning, and trying not to move at all, then when trying to put it into my phone would see it was only 1am or something. I really like being able to chart, but the disrupted sleep wasn't really worth it. Did confirm that I ovulate every month (at least when I was doing it 🤣) so I think that's enough for me for the time being, at least for this cycle.

How are you getting on today? ☺️ xxx

@mushroomushroom hiya! How have you been getting on lovely? You must be well into TWW madness now? Hope you are holding up okay and that BFP is on its way?!

We had a little hiccup in our ovulation this month. My family surprised us with a weekend away (with them, in a shared house🙈) for the weekend. We only got back the day after ovulation, atleast I think thats when I ovulated- i remembered the strips but forgot the actual test bit that you stick them in 🤣 . Since we only managed to dtd when we got home,. I'm ruling out this month and taking it easy. I think I needed a break from the obsessive checking, it feels good. I have a health check at the GP today not sure if its just to get me on their system but uts a step closer.

Hope you are okay! Sending positive vibes your way 💜 xx

Hey there! That's nice that you had a surprise trip away! Irritating that it was right during ovulation, but in a way it's good to get a break from it and try to reset your mind and get away from the obsession for a few weeks!

I'm currently 11dpo and had had weird spotting over the last few days, 8dpo had pinkish discharge, yesterday (10dpo) I woke up and had bright red bleeding, which stopped, and today I have that same pinkish discharge from 8dpo. I'm guessing I'm out :/ had completely convinced myself that I was pregnant this month, had all sorts of symptoms, including cramping and a metallic taste in my mouth. Am now convinced I'm not pregnant and period will just start early this month 😂 it's due in four days! I was in a mega bad mood this morning, didn't even bother testing 😂

That said I'm going to have an aperol spritz this evening after work because it's sunny out and I'm so sick of absolutely everything, DP, work, myself 😅 I'm sure I'll cheer up soon :D

Hope you're well and that you have a nice coming weekend! 🤗

I know, I was really grateful but I did have a bit of a wobble when I realised it was during ovulation. Nevermind, at least I get a month of sanity before it starts again!! I have managed to join and new GP and schedule an appointment too for the 11th. This has made me feel like I'm atleast doing something. The diet didn't materialise after all...👀🤣

Oh, im sorry! Its so rubbish. Could it be implantation bleeding though? If it was only light I mean.

Ahhh I feel ya. I was in a stinker this morning too. I have no excuse though, im just a moody cow. I think I'm going to enjoy 6 thousand gins and a steak tonight as a result haha. You have that aperol and enjoy every sip!!

Hope you are okay. The TWW is just horrible. Im still sending positive vibes to you and hoping you get a BFP this time. There is always hope 💜

So I ended up having more drinks than I planned to last night 😅😅 it was fun being out with friends though, I needed that! Woke up with a hangover and some serious guilt, peed on a stick and BFN and more brown spotting so I'm pretty sure my period is on its way, so I feel less guilty now 😂

I hope you enjoyed your thousands of gins and your steak, and that you aren't as hungover as I am 🤣

My terrible mood lasted the whole day and evening too, by the evening though I was mad as hell at my partner 😅 I feel like he just isn't as invested in TTC as I am, he just mooches along, forgetting to take his vitamins most days and when I talk about how sad I get he's just like "oh don't worry, it'll happen", it's just really annoying. It feels like he gets more excited about a nice restaurant he wants to go to than our potential future baby, which I'm sure isn't the case, and it's that he's trying to "manage my expectations", but it's really pissing me off. It all just feels really lonely in a way. Like it feels like the women on mumsnet are more invested and interested in my feelings than he is, even though of course that's not true 😂

I'm really glad you've got a date for your appointment!! Let me know how it goes! Read up on things to ask for at it, like what blood tests and other things :) also make sure your DH gets in for a sperm analysis, fifty percent of the time the issue is on the man's end, which I think we often lose sight of!

Hahah ahh well, sounds like you needed it. Its nice just to feel normal and not constantly worrying and thinking about it all. Did AF arrive in the end? Don't beat yourself up too much. Its so hard! I'm glad you managed to have a nice time after what sounded like a rotten day for you.

I really did you know, a little too much really. Me and DH acting silly and having a little too much to drink is really just what I needed. I've really not felt myself tye last few weeks. I think the whole process has just got ontop of me a little. Although i was annoyed we had missed our ovulatiom window this month I think time off is what we really needed to feel like ourselves again....I have been terribly hungover. I even don't feel right today. It was worth it though haha.

I honestly think what your feeling is completely normal (it is to me anyway!). I feel exactly the same with my husband and he ALWAYS says the same to me. Last cycle I was so upset when AF but he just kept saying "don't worry, we will get there" I lost me shit with him and gave it to him both barrels. Felt terrible after as I know he wants this just as much as me but it just feels like everything is on me and I'm the only one that actually cares. Lets be honest, we would be screwed if they were in charge of tracking cycles and all the other shit that comes with it!! I must say it 100 times a week but its just all so hard! So much pressure. Its a good job I bloody love him so much, because I could see how it could really break couples. Keep your chin up dear! Your not alone with this feeling and I'm sure we aren't the only ones.

I know I'm so glad its booked in. Just to make sure all is okay really. Yes, hes also booked in with his doc to check the same. Feels like some small progress.

Hope your a little happier today and enjoying the sunshine 🌞 xxx

God, I was really on one this weekend, poor DH 🤣 culminated in a massive massive cry last night, and today I feel much better. Could have been PMS from hell or just pent up emotions from all this TTC and general life stress!

I'm glad you had a great time! Sometimes I think we all need a night of getting absolutely hammered and the subsequent hangover to "reset" somehow 😂😅 I know it sounds bad but im also a little relieved to hear you also get a bit "off" with your DH sometimes too, if you know what I mean, it's just so hard isn't it! I'm so glad you're both getting some tests done, it really is a step forward which is great :) let me know how you get on!

My period started yesterday and today I found out my insurance hasn't processed my application for IUI yet so that's not happening this month, but I spoke to the clinic and they'll give me progesterone after ovulation so maybe that will help! I'm quite sure I ovulate every month so fingers crossed it helps 🤗 I had strange spotting this month which makes me think that maybe the egg fertilised and tried to implant but couldn't, so if that's the case the progesterone should help! It's DHs birthday later this month and I have this idea that if I do a test on his birthday in the morning it will be positive, so I'm still hanging on to my last first response test for that :)

Am currently sitting on my balcony having gotten back from lidl (left work early) and am having a glass of wine 😋 it's the little things! Hope you're having a good start to the week! Xx

Ahhhh well. These are trying times!! I think a good cry can do you the world of good. Hopefully this weekend will be better for us all 😊. Infact I'm one of those loons thats schedules one in if I know its needed....I have lots a feelings you see. All the time. Happy, sad, angry they all need to come out in a cry 🤣

Oh yes, I don't see how it's possible to be all sweetness and light 100% of the time, especially after an unsuccessful TWW! Its just not possible. I don't feel sorry for my DH sometimes but then I remember how bloody wonderful I am and it fades haha. I will keep you posted re the GP appointment. Im just glad to get the ball rolling really.

Oh no!! Thats really shitty on the insurance front but im so glad the clinic have stepped up to help. So annoying when things don't go to plan through no fault of your own. Fingers crossed the progesterone does its job. Ahhhhh thats such a lovely thought. I reaaaaallllly hope this scenario pans out! What a gorgeous birthday present that would be 😍.

Its been a gorgeous week hasn't it? Glad you had time to unwind in the sunshine. We are heading into town today for a day out in the sunshine.... with a few drinks of course 😉. Hope your week continued on the chilled vibe and you have a lovely weekend . Happy Friday!!! 😊 xxx

I have my appointment to get the progesterone tomorrow! Been BD the last few days and I'm getting really embarrassed at the idea they might notice as I've to get a transvaginal ultrasound tomorrow 😅😅😂 although they must be used to that considering their line of work!

It's been fab weather! I'm glad you've been off out enjoying yourself as well! I'm going to have a glass of nice cold wine this evening as a final hurrah until I (hopefully don't!) get a BFN!

I've been meaning to do BBT this month but as I took a few months off I've gotten completely out of the habit and keep forgetting until I'm up brushing my teeth 😂 whereabouts in your cycle are you at the mo?

Will do a little imaginary cheers to you with my wine tonight! ☺️ xxx

@mushroomushroom

Hi stranger!! Sorry, I disappeared for a while had a minor wobble, was pretty major actually so I went into hiding, but im back again now! How are you doing?! How did you get on with your progesterone? Hahaha im sure they are used to it, but i would be the same 🙈

I've given up with BBT completely now too, I just can't be arsed to be Frank haha. Like you say its alot to remember. It is for me anyway!!

We are in a new cycle, 1DPO today. I had my blood tests - all bloods and hormone levels came back normal. I was a bit disappointed really as hoped something would show that we could fix. Does that sound crazy?! I have been referred for an ultrasound on my uterus though and DH has his appointment in a week or so. Once he has his results we can be referred to fertility clinic.

I feel like we have done some good work this cycle though (BD wise....TMI I know) but im feeling alot more positive with everything. Started to eat better the last couple of weeks and even joined an exercise class (this is not me!) and actually feeling good about it.

Where are you upto with everything? Hope you are okay and maybe you have some good news for me? 😊 xxx@

@RCARB

Hi there! No worries at all, how are you doing now? I'm actually in the same boat as you, although I don't think I'm out of my wobble yet 😅 that's really good that your blood tests found everything to be normal (although I totally understand the wanting to find something "wrong" that could explain why things aren't happening yet, so you can have something to "fix"). It's also good you're going in for an ultrasound, ask them to point out everything to you on the screen! You'll get a good look at your cervix and ovaries and uterus 😁 also amazing news that your DH is going in for his test soon, I really hope it all goes well and that the referral to fertility goes smoothly xxx

No good news on my end sadly, although I am still clinging to hope that my bfn at 12dpo might magically turn into a bfp (I'm googling away 😅) although I know deep down it won't. The progesterone hasn't actually been the nicest, it's messy and makes my boobs hurt and gives me almost constant low level cramping, and I'm very emotional, but what is cool is that I haven't had any spotting yet, which normally I would be spotting for a couple of days by now. FF says my period should start tomorrow, Premom says Saturday. In any case it looks like we might be cycle buddies again soon 😅

Had a very major argument with DP at the weekend, so major that I haven't actually been able to talk to him about it yet because I'm not calm enough. It's made me view him in a different way, which is really disappointing. There was no shouting or anything like that, but it was related to my family. so yeah I dunno, I'm not really looking forward to this weekend either because I know our talk is unlikely to go that well. I hope we can resolve it. I also can't believe he would behave in a way that he knew would stress me out so much, especially while im taking a medication that he knew was strongly affecting me, and that im trying so hard to reduce stress. I spent the main part of the implantation window crying and crying :( was meant to start medicated IUI this next cycle (got approval!) but now I feel like I won't be able to handle the emotional side of it at the moment, so I think I'm going to take the month off from trying (or at least, will just see what happens, but not IUI) and just focus on myself, and do some exercise and go on a diet to try and lose some weight (so my winter clothes fit me again 🤣) so that the month after I can be in a better position for it :) I don't have much to lose really, but I'd like to lose a stone!

That's so good that you're already eating better and are going to an exercise class!!! I bet you feel great 😁 I'm really glad to hear that your wobble has passed, it's just the worst feeling :(
Xxx

@mushroomushroom

I'm okay, still a bit on the edge but just in general really and thats not that unusual 😂. Alot going on with work at the moment and trying my best to not let it stress me out but has been a trying few weeks really. Think I need a good cry to be honest....im aware this makes me sound insane but its needed sometimes. Yeh, I feel much better now I have atleast a little progression on the GP front. It feels like im doing something atleast now though. Haha I can't wait to see it you know. I had to have abnormal cells removed about 6 years ago and they did one then but they seemed really put out that I wanted to see it. Said it was just for the dr. Pfffft! I was not happy haha, i wanted a good look haha.

Oh poo I was hoping to be celebrating a BfP through you! I know the feeling, I love a good Google to prove that my BFN might not be negative after all... 😂 quite sick really hat do whatever you have got to do to make yourself feel better. No judgement here! Love a bit of denial! I am sorry the progesterone hasn't been has expected and you have been in so much discomfort. Sounds bloody rubbish to be honest. Ahhhh well I will be glad you get you back on my time line but hope it won't be for long and you get some good news soon.

Even worse that you have the addional upset /drama with DP. Really not want you need at any time, especially with everything that you have going on! I think sometimes that's worse, calm words hit differently than shouting when they are nasty. Atleast if its a screaming match you can kind of put some of the blame on emotions or the heat of the moment. Awwww im so sorry, I agree its very selfish to act like that when you are having such a hard time . I hope your can resolve things over the weekend and you can atleast relax a little. Yes I was going to ask about your IUI as knew you has said you may be starting soon. I think its probably wise to wait a little until you know you can handle it. All the baby making sitch is difficult with out all the extra progesterone and IUI business thrown in too. I honestly think that month off has done us a wold of good. I feel I a complete different head space this month. So much more positive about everything and happier in myself. You need "you" time to look after yourself a bit. Get your self happier with yourself. Thats what I want to lose too. Maybe a stone and 1/2 max. I lost 5lbs in first two weeks but haven't been as good this week and had a lot of emergency cake 😂....try again next week.

I really hope you manage to sort everything with your DP and things are more positive for you soon. Its such a horrible feeling. Sending lots of love 💜 x x x

@RCARB nothing insane at all about needing a good cry! I totally get you! Sometimes when I know I need a cry but just can't because I feel numb, I max out on really sad articles or films to bring it on 😂 always feel better after it! Cry away!!

Def ask to have a look, it's mad that they wouldn't let you see it before! I always ask them to show me what everything is, I'm sure I'm annoying sometimes, but it's not like I get to see inside that often 😂

Would have been great to report back with a bfp! I will definitely let you know if/when it happens! 😁 I took another test yesterday evening just in case, before stopping the progesterone, bfn 😅 was taking pictures of it to manipulate them to see if I could cling to any kind of hope, sadly I could not 😂 although it was a massive relief to go to bed last night without knickers on! Waiting now for my period, not really sure what to expect in terms of it coming on or how heavy it will be...

We still haven't had our big talk about the argument last weekend, but yesterday evening I couldn't hold my crying in so I had a big cry with him and we cuddled which was nice, although I am still feeling quite distant from him...

God, you lost 5lb already?? Good for you!!! That's some motivation right there! I'm gonna do my best now too, let's both lose these miserable few pounds! 😁 no worries on the emotional cake though, I'm more of an emotional crisps eater, went through two big bags of the fancy ones last night 😅

I hope you have some nice plans for the weekend, even if it's just laying on the couch and chilling and watching telly 🥰 love xxx

Hey @RCARB bit of an update, had the talk with DP today and it went really well :) Having some wine and watching a film now, so all in all a nice weekend so far. Hope you're having the same xx

@mushroomushroom Oh lovely!! I'm soooooo glad you managed to talk and work everything out. Wine and a film sounds like a bloody lovely night too 🥰.

I had a nice weekend lots of eating out with friends. I was on lemonade though as we are officially on tww (and its killing me!!). Im pretty sure everyone just thinks I'm pregnant just because I wasn't drinking, which sucks because I'm not. Just living in hope. I've enjoyed all my eating though. Safe to say no weight was lost this week HAHA.

How are you feeling? Have you had any more thoughts about your IUI?

Hope you have had a nice start to the week! X x x

Oh the TWW is the worst for not drinking but also not wanting people to think you're pregnant when you're not (yet) 😩 I'm glad you had fun though! Good on you for eating plenty, you deserve it! If you can't have a drink then enjoy tasty buttery carby food!! 😋

I actually have covid it turns out, DP had it and now I've got it 😅 so I'm actually just lying in bed sipping on whiskey 🤣🤣 bored out of my mind, too sick to go to work, too bored to work from home, sick of watching tv too 😅 it'll pass quickly though :) my period finally started like four days after stopping the progesterone, and is really heavy (but surprisingly seems to only be actual blood, no clots or anything. Sorry I know that's TMI), so have even less energy than usual. Been on my strong painkillers too cause it's been quite painful 😅

How many DPO are you? I'll be keeping everything crossed for you!! Get that BFP for the both of us! 💪

We actually made some pretty big decisions here, instead of going for IUI we're going to go straight to IVF. I emailed the clinic so hopefully will have an appointment to discuss the next steps soon. With how bad my endo is and my age (36, not that old I know, but in terms of a second baby, if I get as far as one, I will be pushing it), we decided to go for IVF and fingers crossed be able to have a few embryos frozen. It's going to be expensive but we've been saving for this (obviously it would be ideal if it was covered, but it isn't). I'm afraid because my ovaries are scarred together, that IVF will be painful (ovaries with eggs like bunches of grapes sounds pretty horrifying to me 🤣), but I'm going to talk to the consultant and we will figure everything out. I'm both scared and excited, and I just hope it will go well.

It won't be immediately though, so I'm going to focus on getting my body in tip top shape (I mean that's always the plan, but you know how life goes...), so after this weekend I will be cutting out all booze and milk (am intolerant but I just bloody love cheese), and will start doing yoga several days a week again :)

Btw, I'm not sure how far along the mental-train you are, but what supplements are you taking? I've been on the google again and I'm considering spending a fortune on unibiquinol supplements 😬 I started taking the coQ10 ones from boots on top of my regular ones (folic acid and all the usual, plus more vitamin D and melatonin), but I've been reading that ubiquibol is really good for your eggs, it just is really expensive 😬

Xxx

@mushroomushroom

Oh no!! I'm sorry you have been feeling unwell. I know its doing the rounds again. I've had it so many times now its beyond a joke. Im obviously not very good at keeping my distance from people haha. Are you feeling any better today? You poor thing, a heavy period and covid. That just doesn't seem fair at all!! Get yourself wrapped up with a hot water bottle, some crisps and a good series to binge watch.

I'm 7DPO today. Naturally have been testing the last couple of days....because I have zero self control. I was super confident after ovulation because of all the BD we actually managed to get in before and through ovulation but now its getting further along im loosing hope. Its still early though. AF only due next Thursday so fingers crossed!!

Wow! That's amazing work. Well done you. I know these decisions can be so difficult but you have got to do whats best for you! Oh I really hope it goes well for you too dear. When do you think you will start?
A girl with a plan, I love it! All sounds very sensible. I hope you do better than me....I seem to have lost my motivation to lose weight again 🙈. Ill keep searching for it though, but I don't think ill find it where I'm looking now- the bottom of the biscuit tin! 😂

Well.... I take folic acid, B6 and D. Absolutely no logic to these choices just read threads where people had said they had taken it and got a bfp. Silly really! I started to take Vitex for a little bit too. A herbal thing but I started having really painful periods so I stopped. Was worried it was doing more harm than good, for me anyway. Im open to try anything if it would help! Does you DP take supplements too? I'm yet to get mine to try this.

Hope you are feeling better dear! Its so funny, I dont know you but I find myself wondering where you are up to with everything. Nice to have a buddy going through the same thing 😘 xx