16 DPO, high temp, AF due tomorrow

[RCARB]

Hi All,

Got myself in a bit if a tiz - this TWW as been awful.

Have been trying on and off for a very stressful 18 months, all without a sniff of a BFP.

But this month I have felt so different. After O (tested with CB O test and temping). Had soooo many symptoms; nausea, cramps, bad taste in mouth, headaches, creamy cm and dizziness all varying from 5DPO until today (16 DPO). As I have never normally experienced any of this during the TWW I have been convinced I would be seeing BFP soon. Temp has been measuring high (and still is today) but after getting a BFN today when I tested, im worried I've just imagined all of it. I used CB early detection and It wasn't with my first urine of the day (I was trying to hold out until Tuesday if no AF Tomorrow....I failed!).
As Im slowly driving myself mad, I was just wondering if anyone got BFN at this point and went onto the see BFP? Could it be that I didn't use first urine of the day??

Clutching at straws I guess, but there is always hope until AF arrives

Rebecca x x x

Well, no mistaking this 😅

In a few days onto CD1! Had some massive cry's yesterday and today, hopefully this crappy feeling passes soon!

I'm sorry you've been feeling so crap this week too 😔 I think crying at acupuncture sounds like a good thing, like it got some stuff unblocked! I'm glad he made you feel ok about it ☺️

Gin filled weekend sounds perfect!!! We're going to put up some Christmas decorations today (I know it's crazy early, but we're both travelling from mid December so I want some time to enjoy them!) and I'm going to make mulled wine :) see if we can get some wood for the fire!

I also hope you have a nice weekend, from the sounds of it you've got a good one planned 🤗

Xxxx

Urgh! I know it well. Sorry dear!

I think crying is the best way out of the tww blues to be honest. I felt so much better after my accupunture, I think it was more crying to someone new...which sounds insane haha. Glad you got some of it out.

I bloody love Christmas so no judgment from me. I've bought all kinds over the last few weeks to cheer myself up or to distract myself. I cant wait to put them all up.

Get that festive feeling going, im sure that will help!

Hope you are feeling a little better. I can't belive its Sunday night already 😔. X x x x

Crying to someone new doesn't sound mental at all actually 😂 sometimes I feel better after a cry to someone new than I do than a cry to DP 😂

How are you getting on now? What CD are you on? My period still hasn't started, but I'm getting the cramps and foul mood, which is fun 🤣 I spent the weekend in an absolute heap, for the first time in a long time I was actually glad to go to work today. Was still in a foul mood but at least couldn't be crying the whole time 😂😂

We ended up staying in bed and watching the holiday and then horror films and drinking wine this weekend, didn't put a single Christmas decoration up 😅😅 I love sparkly/tacky decorations so I went out looking for holographic lametta or tinsel on Saturday and couldn't find anything 😭😭 I hate that Christmas decorations these days are "classy" 🤣

Hope your week has started well xxx

Hahah thank god, thought I sounded like a right nutter! It really helped me though, I think because it was at the start too I was able to just properly relax during the meditation bit! Did me the world of good.

I'm 9 CD today. I thought it was my ultrasound this afternoon but turns out I got the day wrong, its actually tomorrow. I'm normally so on the ball with things like this but it's the 3rd appointment that I've just messed up the time/day. My head is completely cabbaged. So yeh thats tomorrow pm🤣
Oh no, im sorry you have had a rough time this weekend. There is nothing worse than the hormones and pain of your period and then it doesn't even have the decency to turn up properly!

The holiday is festive....not sure about the horror films though 🤣 I'm such a baby, i don't like anything even a little be scary! But maybe a weekend in bed is what you needed.
We didn't do a great deal really. I got silly drunk on Saturday at the local pub and tried to do Kareoke but someone with the same name got up instead and stole my song. I was actually furious! But so much so that it was just hilarious in the end. Hangover on Sunday was not so funny though 😐. Think we needed a blow out though. Back to lime and soda from now on....Merry Christmas 😒🤣.

I'm the same about Christmas decorations. We used to have a little terraced house and I have always chosen the biggest tree we could find. It is always too big to fit in the house and it was tacky as hell but my god, I loved every tree we had there. Each year they got bigger 🤣. Keep your eyes pealed. Tatt is out there. You just really need to look for it these days 🤣.

Hope you are feeling a bit better today? Did you stop taking the progesterone?
Good luck on the tacky Decky hunt!!! I have every faith you will succeed 🤩 xxxx

Hey @mushroomushroom How are you doing dear? X x x

How is everyone? Xx

Hey @Swirls346 ! All good here. Got my LH surge tonight so trying to enjoy the moments before the TWW obsession sets in. How are you doing?

It had been a really tough couple of weeks. The positive test last cycle had effected me more than I had realised and have really struggled.
Trying to think positive for the weeks ahead. Had my ultrasound on Wednesday too so just wait for results of that. All in all everything is OK.

Hope you are doing Okay too 😘 x x x

@RCARB sorry you've had a rough couple of weeks. I was like that when I had my chemical, it's because you imagine it all etc and believe the dream is finally coming true.
It will be your time one day I promise and hopefully soon!
I am doing well to be honest. I've not been on Mumsnet as much and trying to be much more laid back as last month I obsessed over every twinge and I refuse to waste that much thinking space over it.
I'm cycle day 14 today and usually ovulate between day 17-19 but have a sneaky suspicion I've ovulated early because I had lots of EWCM over past few days and my Lh tests have gone even lighter rather than darker.
We haven't DTD so may have missed this month but it is what it is!
I am enjoying the time of year with my little boy and he does keep me occupied. I found TTC the first time around much harder xxx

@RCARB I'm so sorry I disappeared! Im doing ok! I had a bit of a wobbler there and then work got extremely hectic (or rather, I finally got pressured enough from a self-imposed deadline to actually do my job) so I kind of dropped off the grid for a bit.

How are you doing? How did your ultrasound go? Were they able to see that you ovulated? I suppose they must have if you had your LH surge on Monday then had the scan on Wednesday :)

I'm sorry you've also had a rough couple of weeks, I completely understand you. It really does knock you back sometimes doesn't it :/

You're about 4/5 DPO now? I had my surge yesterday, so I guess I'm almost in the TWW too. My mood has been all over the place lately, I've felt like a crazy person. In a week or so is when I would have had my baby had I not lost it (well, would have a one year old this year), so it's also a bit harder around this time. Just a bit of a crap aul time to be honest!

In nicer news though it's snowing where I live, and there are Christmas markets, so DP and I will go out for some mulled wine in a bit :)

Sending you lots of love, and I'm sorry I did a disappearing act there!! Xxxx

Hey!!! @mushroomushroom

Dont you be saying sorry! I totally understand the need to step away from here when you have so many other plates to spin too! Hope your got sorted with work and are not so stressed anymore?

I'm soo so sorry, thats so sad and you completely entitled to behave like a mad woman! Scream, shout, cry do whatever you have to do just be kind to yourself ❤

Ahhhhh we had snow last night too. Its gorgeous and very Christmassy. I had my works Christmas outing in town yesterday, which was fabulous. Lots of lovely food and a few sneaky tipples. I know i shouldn't have but it is Christmas after all.
We have out our deccys up this weekend too and the house looks amazing. Im so happy with it. Super emotional, as this is our first Christmas in our house I can't quite believe its ours!

Yeh, im 5 Dpo today. The scan was a bit disappointing they wouldn't show me anything or answer any of my questions. That really peed me off tbh! I have a consultation with my GP tomorrow to discuss the findings, what ever they are. So am hoping to get some answers then.

How are your getting on. Where are you up to with everything?

Sending lots of love and Christmas sparkle 🎄💘 x x x x

@RCARB you're too sweet :) work has actually gotten slightly more stressful in the meantime, my contract is up in a few months and a job I was quite sure I was going to get, found out today I didn't get it 😅 will be back applying to jobs like a madwoman again soon!

Today is also the date, so in a way I'm thinking that maybe the job thing was for the best, like maybe my baby was looking out for me 🥰 in any case, I'm currently having a glass of wine on the train, I'm going to have a bath when I get home, and will get a takeaway with DP.

Oh your Christmas party sounds lovely!!! With all the snow and lights it must have been magical 😍 I hope you enjoyed those drinks!! Zero shame here, plus I don't actually think that having the odd drink actually has that much of an impact during the TWW, at least I can't imagine either of us are getting sloshed enough for our fallopian tubes to have wine flowing through them 🤣

I hope you're enjoying your first Christmas in your new home!! So lovely that you could decorate it like you wanted and feel cosy 😍

That's really annoying they wouldn't tell you what they were seeing as it was happening!! What did the GP say? I hope that everything was normal and fine! Even though it's frustrating to not get answers that way 😬

I'm 3dpo today. I started taking some Chinese herbs from my TCM doctor, the most bitter thing I've ever had in my life!! It's growing on my though 🤣 I started drinking it on Sunday (day after ov) and really bizarrely I've been having some spotting. I never get ovulation spotting. I can't even blame the tea because I had spotting before I started it, but I assumed it was from DTD the night before? I don't know, but it's weird!! A very watery pink, sometimes a bit brown, but very slight. I also still have quite high OPKs, which I normally don't have after ov. Sure who knows, in two weeks all will be revealed either way 😂

Lots of love xxxx

Hey @RCARB how are you doing? I keep hoping I'll come online and see that you've gotten a bfp, thinking of you and hoping you're well!! Xxx

@mushroomushroom Hey! So sorry have been trying to not to come on here too much in the tww. I've actually been really chilled this month, I'm 13 DPO today and I've only done two HG tests. I KNOW!!! I'm shocked too haha.

Have been trying to just enjoy the build up to Christmas and not get too obsessive with it all. Im amazed ive been so chill. Now that I've started testing I will probably go through a box full over the next few days 🤣. I have just done one and there is the faintest shadow of a line but after last months dibacle, im not counting my chickens!!!

The scan was a shit show. Well the scan was fine but my dr appointment was terrible. It was a telephone consultation. She said everythkng looks fine and healthy. I have a tilted womb but I already knew that from when I've had smear tests. There are apparently signs that I have polycystic ovarys, which is I quote " why you probably don't have regular periods and when you do bleed heavier for longer than you should". I said well actually I'm like clockwork with my periods but they are very short and light. I also ovulate regularlyaccording to my LH levels and the ovulation I get (again like clockwork everymonth) . Apparently the scan can not diagnose it but it suggests it so I have had a blood test and waiting results. I felt like she just wanted to get me off the phone and didn't want to talk me through or explain anything. So I got off the phone and just cried. Felt so deflated. I think we are going to look at going private after Xmas. It seems like every doctor I've seen just doesn't know how to help! Its exhausting.

Anyway, how are you doing dear? How are those Chinese herbs working out for you? How are you getting on this cycle? Where are you up to? Hope your are okay. X x x x x

@mushroomushroom maybe just an evap. Maybe just my eyes . Still 3 days until AF 🤷🏼‍♀️ xxx

Just done another with fresh urine incase it was the test. Took the photo on the 3 min alarm...I think its happening again 😭 x x x

@RCARB try again this morning, hopefully there will be a little more of a shadow, because I can definitely also see those shadows there :) don't forget that diluted pee will give a weaker result, sometimes I can have a massive difference in LH strips a few hours apart, and a big mug of coffee is to blame!

Let me know, thinking of you this morning!!

That sounds like a proper shit show, you're right, how awful she made you feel like she was rushing you. Also a load of knob that she said it looks like you have polycystic ovaries and then went on to say all the stereotypes that don't apply to you! I actually have been told that too, I have lots of little cysts, but not PCOS (which is hormonal) and I doubt very much you have PCOS either given what you've said! So don't let her panic you!

I'm ok, I'm 10dpo today, currently lying in bed but I'll get up for the day and do (another 🤣) test in a min. I'm not sure how the herbs have been working, I actually had to stop taking them because I've had spotting constantly since ovulation 😬 I got red spotting two days ago so maybe that's something, but the continuous brown spotting doesn't have me hopeful 😬 let's see in any case! The TCM dr said that all women he's prescribed it to tolerate it really well so I don't know why I've had the spotting 😅

Xxxxx

@mushroomushroom Have done another this morning and as predicted BFN 😔. My LH is really light as well this morning which is strange. Im in the office today so atleast I cant dwell on it and take 100 tests!
Its so strange though. I've never had this in the 18 months of trying and then 2 months in a row I get one day of q hint of a positive.

Ahhh we proper TWW buddies again haha. Ifs better when we are i kine with our times. Thats no good about the herbs. What were they? Could the spotting be implantation? Have you had any other "symptoms"? Fingers crossed that this is your lucky test and you get a BFP!!!

X x xx

@RCARB I'm actually completely shocked, how is that possible? I have never had anything like that on those tests, I find it so hard to believe that it's even possible?? If they truly are evaps I'm horrified for you, it's just so cruel! It's also so strange that it's happening at the right time too, cause it's not happening when it's too early! Maybe try doing a test on your husband's wee later this evening?

I'm glad you're at work today and will be busy 🥰

And yes, cycle buddies again! 😁 although next month we might not be cause I think I have a shorter follicular phase than you 🥲 we won't be trying next month in any case as DP and I will be on different continents during my fertile window!

I had a bfn this morning as expected. Still have the brown spotting, it's so infuriating 😅 I've had no other "symptoms" beyond being extremely gassy, much more than normal, but I haven't eaten anything strange. My boobs don't hurt at all.

I'm also in the office and am meeting a friend for lunch today which is nice! Xxxx

Its so strange as I got a faint line testing two different wee samples yesterday. One at about 6pm and then another at 10pm. I thought then then it might rule out evap? So confusing that its almost disappeared this morning when you think it would be at its strongest. I wonder if its just struggling to stick/take? I'm 14 DPO today and AF due tomorrow/Thursday so I guess we will see. I don't have any cramps or anything. Just a wierd pinching pain to the left of my pelvic area. Its all very confusing. Im glad I had prepared myself for it though as I was a mess when this happened last month.

Oh that's annoying but tbh I'm kind of jealous that your having a break from the whole thing! Enjoy the time were you won't need to obsessively go over every little symptom and decide there and then that you must be pregnant 🤣. And wine. Enjoy all the wine!!! X x x x

Also seems weird that I'm only seeing these positive lines stince starting accupunture. Its my third month now. Could that be a coincidence? Or could it be thats its trying to work? X x x

Hi @RCARB , sorry to jump on your thread.
These look like they could be chemicals. As in the egg is fertilised and tries to implant. It can happen when it's not viable or if your body can't sustain the pregnancy. This happened regularly to my friend and the GP did a 21day progesterone test, which showed she was low. And she was prescribed progesterone.
It might be worth asking your GP for this test, just for peace of mind.

Wishing you a sticky little bean in the future🤞

@bubballoo Thank you so much for this. This is what I've thought was happening also. Im having trouble getting anyone to listen to me unfortunately, which is so frustrating!! I will try and get this across at my next appointment.

Thank you so much for the advice! X x x

Hope you're ok. I have heard acupuncture helps fertility and my friend got pregnant the month before starting ivf and she was having acupuncture. Who knows! It's a good sign sperm is meeting egg.
I'm 10dpo today and don't have any symptoms so think I'm out this month xxxx

@Swirls346 I do find it so strange because I've never had a sniff of even a faint line in the whole 18 months + we have been TTC. So to get a positive lines 2 cycles in a row is so odd! I'm okay. Trying to take anything positive i can from the experience. Made an appointment with my GP to try and discuss again. Hopefully I will get somewhere this time. Thank you for your comment 😘.

You never know dear. Your not our until the red witch arrives 🤞🏻 for you x x x x

@RCARB it's just too strange that you would be getting evaps like this two months in a row, I also suspect that you might be having chemical pregnancies 😔 that said, it progesterone could help!! I think in the UK it needs to be prescribed by a consultant, from previous threads it seems that GPs tend not to prescribe it. I think there are natural ways to increase it though, maybe have a google? Like with yam cream.

I really hope your period doesn't arrive and this sticks, or that you get a line again!

Xxxx