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Should there be more improvement six days after grommets in a toddler?

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AREJAAG · 26/08/2026 14:44

My little boy is 2 years 2 months and he is 6 days post grommets surgery. The first couple of days I noticed him making better eye contact but now it seems he’s in his own little world again.
He’s also taken a sudden interest in people’s eyes when he’s up close. His balance is also much better, he’s running faster and not bumping into things or falling over as much.
other than that I’ve not noticed much of a difference.
I thought he might be a bit more aware of his surroundings initially. He will stop and look at people e.g other kids playing at the park or other adults stood around but he was already doing this occasionally before. I haven’t noticed him following sound more than he used to but I think it’s selective to be honest as sometimes he does and sometimes he doesn’t but again it’s always been this way.
should there have already been improvements by now? Just a bit concerned as I’ve heard people saying they’ve noticed drastic changes in their toddlers immediately and I don’t feel that we have.
he did have about 50 words already but a lot of them didn’t sound how they should and he’s still continuing to use his words and chat away whilst he’s playing.
Tia x

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Tunaboona · 26/08/2026 18:48

What did his hearing test show beforehand? How little could he hear? My ds had issues with certain frequencies so he could hear but now low mens voices for example.

The whole point of grommets is to drain fluid. It can take a while I think to see the benefits. We saw most benefits in sleep but that's because we had adenoids out too.

RandomMess · 26/08/2026 18:53

His brain needs how to learn to hear with what is going on now, it takes time.

elaeocarpus · 26/08/2026 21:20

I think the main reason for grommets is preventing ear infections and fluid build up, rather than improving hearing as the primary reason for grommets ( i think?). They usually clear out any ‘glue’ when they put them in too. Was it one ear or both? What was hearing like before? Depending on what frequencies or volumes and one or both ears, it may or may not be as obviously different right away. Did they have much scarring already on the ear drum? My DC had bilateral grommets and hearing change was quite noticeable-thought everything was loud afterwards and it was clear they could hear more sounds and nursery workers noticed it too. You should get another hearing test soon i think which may show you what has changed.

Sosbanfachtheresatellyinmybath · 26/08/2026 21:38

It takes time to get used to and adjust to new sounds, so you won't notice an improvement this soon. I noticed an improvement around 6 weeks with my dd. Her hearing test was almost perfect just before they fell out.
Unfortunately she has some loss again a year later, but she hasn't had any infections since they fell out so that's a positive.

IHateAlzheimers · 26/08/2026 21:41

I had an operation that gave me back the hearing in one ear (bony issues for 20 years, hearing aids for that long) and going back to 'analogue' hearing took quite the brain re wire, it did take me a while to fully get the benefit. I wonder if there is post op swelling etc as well?

Purpleturtle45 · 26/08/2026 21:48

My son has had grommets twice, at 5 and 7. His hearing was instantly improved. He kept asking why everything was so loud to begin with. That's just my experience though, could be different for others.

NoWinnersOnlyLosers · 26/08/2026 23:27

Why had he been prescribed grommets in the first place? My DD wasn’t able to listen properly and she heard muffled sounds. She had also glue ear where there is mucus in the ear that does not allow the tympanic membrane (eardrums)to move so that the transfer of sound waves is limited.
we noticed she was relaying on lip reading and making eye contact.

she also snored and had huge amygdalas so they had to be removed and she improved greatly.
she still has one grommets 3 years in, the other one fell but I think it takes a bit to get used to for the child.

do you have a follow up appointment with the ent surgeon? Try taking to the secretary for a review. Best of luck

AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 10:48

So he had the grommets because he had glue ear in both ears, we think for over a year in total looking back. The surgeon said it was significant and one ear was particularly bad, we did notice some draining out initially. He didn’t have a hearing test before as we presume it was too early for him to be able to press the button when he heard something (I think that’s what happens?)
he had about 50 words before the surgery but no 2 word phrases and communication was a bit behind for his age but he was still learning newer things at a slower pace but we could tell his hearing was massively effected without a hearing test as he would respond better to vibrations over sound

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AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 10:51

He has had them in both ears and he had a pressure test before hand that showed he had glue ear. We paid privately as the waiting list for the NHS was over a year and we didn’t want to wait any longer. My partner noticed last night that when he sneezed he jumped out of his skin which he wouldn’t normally. He has always watched our mouths move when we spoke to him like he’s really trying to figure it out. Hoping in the next few weeks that we notice a difference but we have noticed that he is making a lot more eye contact

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Tunaboona · 27/08/2026 12:05

He should have had a hearing test. They use toys under a certain age e.g. put the block on the stack when you hear a noise.

I would monitor closely because once the grommets fall out/heal then the glue ear can come back so I would make sure you get referred into NHS and then ask for regular hearing tests.

MargaretThursday · 27/08/2026 20:05

@elaeocarpus
I think the main reason for grommets is preventing ear infections and fluid build up, rather than improving hearing as the primary reason for grommets ( i think?).

That wasn't the case when ds had grommets. Ear infections alert you to them needing to hear, so helps get a referral, but they don't do grommets to stop ear infections. In fact they were very clear that grommets don't always stop ear infections; it's a nice side effect. Ds was getting ear infections about every 10-14 days so it was good not to have them, but they wouldn't have done it if his hearing was fine.
His friend who had ear infections but they drained quickly and didn't effect his hearing didn't get grommets.

Op, they can do a sort of hearing test by getting them to put a toy into a bus or similar when they hear a noise, but it's pretty random until they're old enough to understand. For ds that was about 3yo, although at 3yo they found that he thought putting a person into the bus was totally boring so he ignored them and just played with the bus. They then tried the button, which he loved, so concentrated well.
What they did do for ds when he was tiny was a puff test. The graph should have a nice peak on the line. Ds' were flat.

Ds had grommets at 20 months, 3 years and 6years.
I never had the immediate "amazing" any of the times. The main thing I noticed was the change in not having ear infections.
But ds noticed things. The two that stood out was him telling me that "the leaves didn't crunch last year" ie he couldn't hear them when he was 3yo, and when he was 6yo him rushing out of school to tell me the exciting news that "sh" and "ch" made different noises - before the operation he couldn't hear the difference.
However the difference in the hearing test when he was old enough to do one properly was he went from they said less than 10% hearing well into normal range.
But most of the things were not that noticeable at the time. I can look back and think "oh yes" but at the time I didn't see them as they were subtly better.

The watching your mouth is exactly the same as ds. He had this cute little habit of when he was talking to me of patting me on the cheek. ENT pointed out this was him turning my face so he could lip read. He also wanted to be carried - so his ears were near my mouth.
He had a less cute habit of telling people what their PIN number was - you'd be surprised the number of people who mouth it as they put it in.
He stopped turning my face while he had grommets in - in fact it was one of the ways I realised his grommets had come out the second time. He'd adapted so well that it wasn't very noticeable most of the time.

arlequin · 27/08/2026 20:29

my son had them at 18 months at the Portland. Not sure if you’re anywhere near there but they have an amazing baby hearing test there

AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 20:33

Tunaboona · 27/08/2026 12:05

He should have had a hearing test. They use toys under a certain age e.g. put the block on the stack when you hear a noise.

I would monitor closely because once the grommets fall out/heal then the glue ear can come back so I would make sure you get referred into NHS and then ask for regular hearing tests.

But he can’t follow instructions like that due to his hearing so I understand with children that young why they don’t. It would have been pointless to do a hearing test with him as it’s delayed his learning from the age of 1 so there’s nothing he would have been able to do to show his level of hearing other than his physical reaction to a loud noise or something like that.
he had a pressure test in both ears which confirmed the glue eat in both ears
The surgeon has already written to the gp and we will have follow up appointments

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AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 20:34

arlequin · 27/08/2026 20:29

my son had them at 18 months at the Portland. Not sure if you’re anywhere near there but they have an amazing baby hearing test there

No I am in Yorkshire. How did they do the hearing test?

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AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 20:35

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arlequin · 27/08/2026 20:37

We went into a special room and different noises were played followed by a toy popping up. They were looking to see if the baby turned their head when they heard the noise

AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 20:45

MargaretThursday · 27/08/2026 20:05

@elaeocarpus
I think the main reason for grommets is preventing ear infections and fluid build up, rather than improving hearing as the primary reason for grommets ( i think?).

That wasn't the case when ds had grommets. Ear infections alert you to them needing to hear, so helps get a referral, but they don't do grommets to stop ear infections. In fact they were very clear that grommets don't always stop ear infections; it's a nice side effect. Ds was getting ear infections about every 10-14 days so it was good not to have them, but they wouldn't have done it if his hearing was fine.
His friend who had ear infections but they drained quickly and didn't effect his hearing didn't get grommets.

Op, they can do a sort of hearing test by getting them to put a toy into a bus or similar when they hear a noise, but it's pretty random until they're old enough to understand. For ds that was about 3yo, although at 3yo they found that he thought putting a person into the bus was totally boring so he ignored them and just played with the bus. They then tried the button, which he loved, so concentrated well.
What they did do for ds when he was tiny was a puff test. The graph should have a nice peak on the line. Ds' were flat.

Ds had grommets at 20 months, 3 years and 6years.
I never had the immediate "amazing" any of the times. The main thing I noticed was the change in not having ear infections.
But ds noticed things. The two that stood out was him telling me that "the leaves didn't crunch last year" ie he couldn't hear them when he was 3yo, and when he was 6yo him rushing out of school to tell me the exciting news that "sh" and "ch" made different noises - before the operation he couldn't hear the difference.
However the difference in the hearing test when he was old enough to do one properly was he went from they said less than 10% hearing well into normal range.
But most of the things were not that noticeable at the time. I can look back and think "oh yes" but at the time I didn't see them as they were subtly better.

The watching your mouth is exactly the same as ds. He had this cute little habit of when he was talking to me of patting me on the cheek. ENT pointed out this was him turning my face so he could lip read. He also wanted to be carried - so his ears were near my mouth.
He had a less cute habit of telling people what their PIN number was - you'd be surprised the number of people who mouth it as they put it in.
He stopped turning my face while he had grommets in - in fact it was one of the ways I realised his grommets had come out the second time. He'd adapted so well that it wasn't very noticeable most of the time.

thank you. My son is 2 and he has had glue ear for a year so there’s a big gap in his learning and he wouldn’t be able to hear the instruction to move the toy or understand what was being asked of him as he’s been in his own little world since the age of 1 maybe earlier but that’s when we started noticing hearing issues. He had a pressure test in both ears which confirmed he had glue ear.

bless him that is so cute. My son also turns my face towards him. I am hoping that over the next few weeks we notice a bit more of a difference. I was just curious as I know people that have said they noticed a difference immediately but there children were much older and were able to tell them where as mine has to catch up with his speech before he could tell me anything

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AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 20:46

arlequin · 27/08/2026 20:37

We went into a special room and different noises were played followed by a toy popping up. They were looking to see if the baby turned their head when they heard the noise

That’s great and it sounds like something he would actually be able to do! Unfortunately I don’t know of anything like that closer to me

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AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 21:03

IHateAlzheimers · 26/08/2026 21:41

I had an operation that gave me back the hearing in one ear (bony issues for 20 years, hearing aids for that long) and going back to 'analogue' hearing took quite the brain re wire, it did take me a while to fully get the benefit. I wonder if there is post op swelling etc as well?

Thank you. Yes more than likely. I think I was just expecting an immediate result so was panicking when it hasn’t turned out like that

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RandomMess · 27/08/2026 21:03

As he’s spent most of his life not physically hearing his brain is going to have to learn how to hear.

He is likely hearing lots of sound now but he won’t recognise it as speech.

It will take time.

AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 21:04

NoWinnersOnlyLosers · 26/08/2026 23:27

Why had he been prescribed grommets in the first place? My DD wasn’t able to listen properly and she heard muffled sounds. She had also glue ear where there is mucus in the ear that does not allow the tympanic membrane (eardrums)to move so that the transfer of sound waves is limited.
we noticed she was relaying on lip reading and making eye contact.

she also snored and had huge amygdalas so they had to be removed and she improved greatly.
she still has one grommets 3 years in, the other one fell but I think it takes a bit to get used to for the child.

do you have a follow up appointment with the ent surgeon? Try taking to the secretary for a review. Best of luck

He had a pressure test which showed he had glue ear in both ears. He has a follow up tomorrow so fingers crossed

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AREJAAG · 27/08/2026 22:38

RandomMess · 27/08/2026 21:03

As he’s spent most of his life not physically hearing his brain is going to have to learn how to hear.

He is likely hearing lots of sound now but he won’t recognise it as speech.

It will take time.

I never thought of it that way thank you

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