Part time Nanny? Would they want this job?

[CrispyTheCrisp]

Apologies if this isn't very coherent, but i am trying to work out what i might need in terms of longer term childcare.

Currently DD's are 4 and 2. 4YO has 2 full days at preschool and DD2 goes to CM 2 full days

I have set up my own business and am doing about 10-20 hrs per week. All fine. However the problem arises if I need to go to London for a meeting (2.5hrs each way) or go to a client further away. I cannot fit this into the pre-school day 9-3.30 (this will become a school day in Sept for DD1). At the moment i take DD1 out of preschool and my CM has her 7-6 which generally works ok for getting to meetings.

My CM does not pick up from DD1's preschool or prospective new school and there are no registered CM in the village (or next village ). There is no after school club (although she could go to one at another school, but they don't do transport).

So, i have been wondering whether anyone would want a job for say 3 days a week, before and after school. At a guess 15hrs? Also would this be a premium for disjointed hours or good for someone as they have the majority of the day free?

Sorry if this is jumbled - happy to clarify anything

TIA

Have all you childcaring peeps gone home?

I think you would find someone but may have to pay slightly more than the going rate for a full time nanny hrly rate.

A nanny with own child may be interested if you were willing to employ them and also gives you the opportunity to employ a more experienced nanny on a slighter lower rate.

Depending where you are, nanny experience and quals and whether brings own child you would be looking at £7-£10 gross an hr. (upto £12 gross an hr for a mega experienced qualified nanny without own child)

Thanks EastMidlands, we are about an hr SW of you and CM's here are about £3.25-£3.50 ph, so i am already paying £7 ph when she has both.

Where would be the best place to advertise do you think? Gumtree? Or is there a specialist PT nanny recruitment website/place?

The thing which i can't get my head around is that they would need to be available 7am-9am and then 3-6pm ish and i can't work out anyone who might find that appealing? CM's are ok with it as they are in their own home, but to travel for that would not seem appealing

Yes some nannies happy to work 8-9 and 3-5/6 - best bet would be a nwoc but what happens if your child is ill during the day?

As not many hours agree that you may end up paying 'more' then the going rate

Look and advertise on your local netmums and nannyjob and gumtree

Sorry to be dumb but what is a nwoc?

My work is very flexible and i would just canx the meeting or DH would have to. I just need to have some days when i can get to and from London or other places further away which i can't do in school hours

Just musing - are there any similar companies to 'sitters' who might do ad-hoc nannying as this only happens (usually) once or twice a month?

They would need to be able to drive though and be covered insurance wise for school runs. Even if much more expensive p.h, this would probably work out cheaper overall?

nwoc = nanny with own child :)

yes could be worth your while in looking for several part timers who ad hoc (like me)

look on netmums and if any nannies looking for occasional work, contact them and meet them, check crb/first aid/ref etc so as and when you may need them to are ready to go and can call them providing they are free

Ah yes, thanks

If you don't mind me asking, what rates do you charge for ad-hoc?

I will pop over to netmums & take a look. Thanks

I have a part-time nanny. She does 15 hours a week over 2 days for me. She also has a part-time job for another family. I pay £8 an hour inclusive of tax (but also pay about £340 a quarter in NI etc.) It works well for me. I got her through a normal local nanny agency (which meant I had to pay about £200 in commission to them for finding her - not a problem as hopefully it will be a very long-term arrangement, but would be a problem if there was a high turnover of nannies). One downside is that in my case the 'other' family take precedence on scheduling (for reasons I won't go into) which means I can't always have the days I want. Upside is that she's very flexible, fab with the kids, and gives me much more freedom for work (i sometimes need to travel / attend evening events etc.) and she just arrives & takes over - she knows the kids and their routines, so she can arrive, do teatime, bath & bed etc. for example which a normal babysitter wouldn't find so easy. And kids are in their own home (obv they go out & do activities but they're not out of the house for really long periods) which since they're very young is an advantage, I think. You could try speaking to local nanny agencies and see if they've got anyone on their books who would like your arrangement - it might just suit someone, and if so then you might not need to pay over the odds.

I work for Sitters, and have had day time bookings before. I think it all depends on the sitters themselves, I know a lot of them have 'day' jobs as well.
It may be worth a call to them.
Also, have you a child care training college near you? If it is only occasional work, you may get a student, who could work it around college and placements, all good experience for them too.

Oh good, it looks like i may have some options then. I will contact local nanny/sitter agencies and see if they may have someone who is interested on an ad-hoc basis to start with and then move to x hrs per week if i find this is what i need

Molly - good idea re student, but they would need to be very confident and have a decent car for transport etc as i wouldn't necessarily be close at hand if anything happened they were unsure of how to deal with

Your best bet def sounds like a nanny with own child as generally willing to be more flexible in order to get a job if that makes sense.

I do ad-hoc work and charge £12 an hr but if was taking my baby with me would offer a 25% reduction in my rates.

going rate here is about £8 net an hr but I am expensive but am very experienced and qualified.

I can highly recommend the agency www.kidsmatter.uk.com

or try gumtree, netmums, childcare.co.uk, findababysitter.com

be warned you get lots of unsuitable repsonses through private ads so have to sift through - have just posted an ad on gumtree for a childminder in may in my area and have had loads emails from people who want to be a nanny - lots not english and have no real childcare experience and charge £6-£8 an hr some have made me laugh though!!!

Thanks ever so for all those websites

Both my DDs love babies, so a nanny with a baby could have her child entertained for free. Win win

crispie, i charge £12 but as east midland said we are both qualified and old with tons of experience

Not that old blondes!!!

Good luck crispy hope you find someone local to you maybe someone on here can help if you post location

LOL at you pair of old blondes

I spoke to my CM about it tonight as she knows lots of other childcare people in the area on the offchance she might know someone who it would suit. She said she knows someone who cares for other children a few days a week, but during the day only, so fingers x'd that might work.

Thanks for all your input ladies

Oh, i am near Gloucester/Cheltenham if anyone else knows anyone