I am not being funny but during my seach for a 4 man tent I have seen many package deals for tents and stuff, was looking in the tesco book and argos and noticed that alot of the tents only have a 1500 HH. I have always been told that anything less than 2000 is not likely to withstand british weather. I feel sorry for people on a small budget who are led to beleive that this equipment is going to keep them dry and warm, when it probably won't. One night or morning of persistant rain and they are going to be soaked. We saw a family at Christchurch, Forest of Dean last summer who had been sold a package where the double airbeds were too big for the pods and were bulging out of they sides. Anyone else think its cruel or am I just being a wus??