took 4th Outwell Iowa tent away for our first camping trip of teh year ...would be a great tent, like the design good size etc if did not have hole in SIG big enough to see the grass... or leak like a sieve from a dodgy join....past history 1 montana-leaked, replaced straight away 2nd montana fantastic- sold it!- nevadas last year nice tent dodgy rain door fitting but leaked down the seams, so sent back - don't like vangos as had problems in the past and saw quite a few collapse last summer ....so who else makes tents that are not too big (only 3 of us) and feel like they can handle a bit of weather.... have 2 weekes booked at eweleaze this summer so need a tent! as really want to go there.....