ok, think I have persuaded DH to give camping a go this summer (although this current weather is almost making me think again)- have looked at a number of threads on here and at some of the online site mentioned and wondered whether anyone could help - we want something suitable for 4 (us and two kids) with two sleeping compartments, I think I like the ones that are opposite each other but I guess I won't know until we try it - we absolutely need a sewn in groundsheet as DH has a vermin phobia - two I've seen and thought I liked the look (and price 
) of are the \link{http://www.outdoorgarage.com/acatalog/copy_of_Aztec_Cantera_4_Tent.html\Aztec Cantara 4} and the \link{http://www.outdoorgarage.com/acatalog/copy_of_Wynnster_Hawk_4_Tent.html\wynnster Hawk 4}
anyone know these? pros/cons? are they easy to put up? are they bright inside?
any other ideas to suit us - can't be too expensive as god knows whether we'll do it more than once if we hate it (we are fairly seasoned tiny-caravanners so do know some of what to expect) - definitely needs to be the right side of 200 quid. we want to be able to stand up, at least in the living bit and want a decent sized living area for the inevitable days when it is chucking it down. Porch for storing wet odds and sods (the kids, mainly) would be great too