The PESH Deli - The drinks might be virginal, but that's about all...

[CurlyCasper]

Come in, come in to the new haven for diffed BESHies. I think a group effort is needed here (and I'm being a lazy preggo), so please add to the deli whatever you crave/love/can stomach.

Nominations are also open for sexy fathers we can hijack to serve our mouldy cheese and cured ham

And the best mocktail recipe wins...well, bugger all to be honest

Yeah, I get all of that, but say you gain weight even despite eating healthily - what are you going to realistically do about it? You could mither yourself crazy over putting on weight till you are eating less and less and then have a 10lber. My point is not 'oh it's so fab I can eat what I like and not put on weight and besides it falls off me when I eat a lettuce leaf', my point is, if you are eating healthily-ish because you are really concerned about putting weight on and not being able to shift it - i.e you are doing the right things, why make life even more stressful for yourself by hopping on and off the scales?

I can see it is a sensitive issue for you rots and I apologise for appearing insensitive, but I genuinely, and totally honestly, cannot understand for one single minute, what weighing yourself is going to achieve. Really I don't. So my questions remain - what/who makes you decide you are 'putting too much weight on', and then what is the plan for getting rid of it whilst you are still pregnant and growing anyway? And I come from the position of weighing about 14 and a bit stone, am size 16/18 and have never been able to lose weight easily. I certainly don't want to lose weight or reduce my calorie intake at this important time, and I figure that since I'm doing everything exactly the same in terms of mealtimes, food intake and lack of exercise as before, what is the point in fretting and using the weighing scales as some sort of stick to beat myself with?

Oh I don't know, I really don't. Sorry for the offence and all but everyone is entitled to my opinion, etc. I'm not trying to be vindictive or bolshie, for the life of me I cannot understand it.

rots I does love those giant strawbs tho - they are fruit - yes?

besh I seem to remember symptoms taking a while to kick in for a few of us - which for me fuelled the paranoia... but then again I'm fucking menkul...

caveat - when I say 'i'm fucking menkul' i don't mean in an 'OMG look how kerrrazy I am' type way - I mean in a 'lock you up and seek help' type way

just to be clear...

cunty Actually I thought I would restrict my food intake a bit, then beat myself with the aforementioned stick, feel guilty about the baby, binge, lather, rinse, repeat. Seriously though, I'm not weighing daily but rather weekly. If I find I'm putting on half a stone a week then yes, I'm going to panic and take a good, hard long look at what I'm eating. I do know right now though that I'm eating far more than I was 4/5 months ago and so it's not all bad iyswim. Lots in but a surprisingly low "gain" so far.

iggy, I fear vag has just stolen your white coat with the long arms...

I'm no expert, but I imagine making a BOC morph into a real life size baby can use up a fair few extra calories...

It certainly seems to - despite "the books" telling us that our metabolism will increase by a maximum of 20%. Tell that to the 2 yoghurts, portion of blueberries, squirt of honey, banana, apple, 2 rounds of egg sarnies, bowl of cherry tomatoes, stick of celery, 4 boiled sweets and Kit-kat I've consumed already today.

vag clearly needs it more than I do... Maybe I should pop around to her house and see if can have her sectioned?

Maybe someone needs to go to her place of work and have a "stern word" with her. Cunty's good at that sort of thing. The silly pudding is worrying far more than you ever did iggy.

ski I'm not an unmarried harlot, I'm a married slut with children from 2 different men

That whole lot sounds like it contains about 2 and a half calories in total.

rots Well, when you put it like that - here's a brainteaser for you! Which married PESH went for a night out with ANOTHER MAN the week she got diffed?

cunty Pass the Ben & Jerry's then - there's a love.

I am only weighing myself every two weeks or so when I think of it, so that's not too menkul. I am not starting from a brilliant weight, and last time I put on so much weight that I didn't want to see anyone for months (how's that for menkul?). I am currently ravenously hungry all the time and eating accordingly, which is worrying. Plus I am likely to again spend the last 3 months immobile in a wheelchair due to a condition which is exacerbated by excess weight. So no, I don't think I am crazy to keep on eye on things every couple of weeks.

ski oooohhh??? I dunno!!

cunty I'm not offended in the slightest - hence the hairy smack as opposed to some random rants about how offensive your post was (LOL, which it wasn't). I do completely agree that getting totally wound up about it is absolutely counter productive AND mentally knackering/possibly dangerous. I guess it's just that "if it was that easy", ie eat less, move more, which is what most people need to do, then most people would do it. What am I doing about it? A perfectly reasonable question which I'm not going to answer as it would simply say, "bugger all".

I am sensitive about the "it's just that easy" kind of messages, but not about being fat. That's my fault. Why be offended by it. I guess a middle ground is good, as ski says - weigh once a week but try not to get wound up about it. Similarly though, keeping an eye on it and not just relying on eating as before is important I feel. I know personally that my eating habits have changed a lot since getting diffed because of nausea, cravings, etc so my body is just different, even if it was at a status quo before.

iggs yummy yummy in my tummy - that's my kinda fruit

Although I am actually a pwoper fwoot fiend. I'm sure I eat too many fruity calories

Will be starting swimming soon as MIL bizarrely has a pool in her tiny bungalow. And she's not even posh (well maybe a little bit). So we get free swimming whenever, but she's just had it re-lined and it's been out of action for a few months. Can't wait to get back into that.

cunty/rots - well I hope I didn't come across as a 'some random rant about how offensive your post was'!! Not at all offended, in fact, your thinking sounds very much like mine was first time around. Given the position I am in now I just can't afford to do that again, and I think any sensible doctor would agree with me.

BTW:

"Yeah, I get all of that, but say you gain weight even despite eating healthily "

No, I don't gain weight, I'm just a stable 2 sizes bigger than I always was weight. I eat healthily in the sense of more than 5/day every day, lots of high fibre stuff, etc. I just eat too much of it, is all, plus the odd extra choc or cake (but that's not the main problem). Being preg throws out my stable habits per previous post so needs even more controlling.

I CAN lose it if I put my mind to it, I'm not out of control or anything, but it takes keeping an eye on it to keep it under control IYSWIM.

Oh My God. I can't believe I just said IYSWIM. Very sad.

pony er - no - I was reading your posts but only replying to cunty about the fat stuff and was meaning that MY post was not a random rant!!!

Please let me be clear

• I was NOT offended by anything cunty or anyone said
• I am perfectly happy and jolly today
• I took umbrage at what cunty said in a disagreeing kind of way BUT that's just debate, not being offended or in any way upset
• I'm happy and unoffended
• I'm not offended or unhappy

Worried about poor vag though

Hellfire, I'm not suggesting for a moment that it is 'easy'! Just that I don't understand that if one is ravenous now, and consequently eats stax, what is going to happen when one finds one has put on weight and is still ravenous.

I know what being overweight is all about, and I am ravenous believe me, but I'll still be ravenous in 2 months time and if I've put on a load of weight and am panicking about it what am I going to do? Resist the urge to eat loads and be a model eater, by which time it is already too late and I actually have to eat diet portions to lose the excess? Or say to hell with it and still eat stax, in which case there is no point in leaping on and off the scales?

Fuck me I sound like a proper food fascist. One look at me would tell you I'm no BonsoirAnna nothing of the sort, I promise you

Oh I see - OK I guess I'd missed your point entirely!

I thought you were saying that if one just eats healthy portions of healthy food then one won't get fat.

As opposed to, if my bod's saying EAT, BITCH, and I get fatter, well what's the point of weighing oneself and then thinking, "Oh fuck, I'm fat".

Is that right?

Oh cunty don't let it lie. That's no fun

But sorry, I guess I totally misunderstood you in which case the violence was totally uncalled for

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3604275.stm

Far as I'm concerned, point made, discussion over

er, yes, the second one. And that is probably a metaphor for life too

Listen at that po-faced arse from the British Dietetic Association 'oh I wouldn't advocate supplementing the diet during pregnancy with chocolate'. I bet he's a riot at parties.