Whilst the rest of us chowed down on runny eggs and shellfish, deeply sneezed out a baby!...It's superb scans all around and only the occasional nose-vom on JS Grads 38!

[5hell]

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 38th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 37th grads fred is here

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 53rd outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Here is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates.

ga did you eat said bacon sarnie. I would have...or thrown it away at least. They sound horrible, in-laws suck at times :(

bat you're totally gonna be parents it's totally freaky though! i often forget about the post pregnancy stage, ie. parenthood and just think about this little wriggling thing inside of me as my life from now onwards.

Boom. Saved £35 on car insurance. FROM THE BATH!

Ga sympathies. Have chips for tea. Loads better than a bacon sarnie.

Bat, eek! I have no advice as this is new to me too! It'll be amazing though I'm sure!

jelly they have never shown signs of twattishness before, always been ok. I'm so fucked off though. I'm a pregnant woman! I need my privacy.

But the sandwich, Ga, did you eat it? Also... If you're not at home, where are you?

honey I went with DD to her dads for tea. Its just up the hill. The sandwich can go to fuck forever!
I've only been out 2 hours DP is away to his parents ha ha.

Lol, poor thing. Your FIL is a PITA. It's not like you're carrying his grandchild or anything!

Thursday I'm on such a huge dose of fs I needed a counter balance! Literally only having a half dose every now and then though as it doesn't usually agree with me. Definitely helping with the fear :)

In-laws can be a nightmare!! ga you've handled it much more sanely than I would have!

I've also just joined the stretch mark gang despite oiling myself up twice a day for the last 32 weeks!? Mine are under my bump too bat but combined with really attractive spider veins that have appeared on my legs, I look like a small child has drawn all over me in purple felt pen!?! The look of them doesn't bother me nearly as much as I thought they would but the itching....dear god!!!

Someone drove into the back of me this morning. I feel fine and baby is wriggling away but it was still scary. And she drove off!! Who leaves a 8 months pregnant crying mess of a woman alone at the side of the road!?!

FFS Rdm that's awful! Did you get their reg?

Ga, I don't know how you've not killed him!

I seem to be coming down with something. I can't get warm, heating is on, I'm under a slanket with a wheat bag. I went to bed and slept for 2 hours and woke up shivering. Hope B doesn't get it!

Oh rdm what utter wankers - are you ok?

ga you're FIL sounds a little like mine, totally fricking insensitive. Mine doesn't mean bad, but he winds me up something chronic. Actually yours sounds loads worse, I'm surprised your DH isn't backing you up. Does FIL only communicate with DH? That's what happens here.

bat I still feel like SHIT, someone let me have a kid! two and a half years later!

And stretch marks happen folks - if they're going to happen to you no amount of oiling yourself up is going to help! I thought I did t have them with DS, but they were just underneath and I didn't see them til my mum pointed them out!

Had a lovely stretch out at Pilates this evening, lasagne for tea now yum yum

Bloody hell rdm hope you're alright. What an absolute knobber to drive off. Also in the knobber category... ga I can feel myself getting the rage on your behalf!

Need a bit of advice if possible. My lovely mother is going to throw me a baby shower because she was appalled nobody did one for my first pregnancy (to be fair I lived quite far away from everyone at the time!) Really touched and looking forward to special afternoon with my mum and friends. HOWEVER the thorny issue is whether my Mil and stepmil are invited. My Mil is very tricky, shouted at my mum in front of everyone at our wedding once we'd left (then boasted about it afterwards) and will go on and on about having to share the baby shower with my stepmil (who is lovely). Basically she makes any event all about her and I really just want this to be about the lovely thing my mum is doing for me! Obviously my mum finds it incredibly difficult to be around her but will put up with it so ax not to rock the boat. But why should she?! Haven't broached with DH yet, he is fully aware of what his mother is like but poor bloke has had a lifetime of trying to appease her and gets frustrated. Arrrrrgh what to do?! I really don't want her there but need to find a good excuse!

Sorry, very me me me but could do with advice!

molly do the shower without them and plan something 'special' with each of them separately. You and your mum don't need the drama.

That's a good idea, thanks sky, she'd love feeling like she'd been singled out for a 1:1 event. Worst thing is I love my stepmil she's fab and gets on marvellously with my mum but there is NO WAY I can invite her and not Mil! Fortunately she's lovely enough to understand but bloody hell it's wearying constantly having to risk assess and damage control Mil!

Ooh, shower dilemas! Solve mine too?

My friends do showers in a big way. Such that they suggest not doing any major shopping until after because you won't need to buy much, sort of style. Everyone gets a big one for first baby and they're already talking about it like its a given.

My MIL of course is American so is also big in to baby showers. However. My sister thinks they are grabby and my mum thinks it is very much tempting fate to have one before babies arrival and very vocally disapproves.

So, do I have one before baby? I would like DM, DSis and MIL to be there, but DM would spend whole time leading to it saying how bad an idea is and DSis would take a moral high ground with it and be a bit sanctimonious. So tempted to do friends only. MIL would love it, but cant really invite her if I am not having my own DM, and would be quiet upset if I had one and didn't ask her, as SIL did.

So options are:

1. shower with friends and family pre baby, ignore doom and gloom and accusations of grabbiness.
2. shower post birth with screaming baby
3. shower pre baby, friends only, and upset mil.

Obvs if I get an easy baby then its not a big deal, but if I have a Velcro one, less than ideal. Although can get away with not buying anything until a post baby shower, as long as I have some basic clothes and a Moses basket. Won't exactly need a bouncer etc, so could wait.

Just for further info... Friends and I love new babies so much. Showers are lovely and fun, good gossip with friends and after the birth we do a food rota for a fortnight where someone will bring you dinner every night, and maybe pop in for a few minutes to meet baby. So no stress, no hundreds of visitors each night.

honey your friends sound lovely and very supportive with all the gifts and the meal rota. Although I kind of hated my baby shower as I can't stand being centre of attention it was important to my friends to spoil me and the baby - and it sounds important to your friends too. So I would say go for it and explain to your family that it is a bit of a tradition amongst your friends and they are all excited about it and already making plans and you don't want to hurt their feelings by refusing. Say that you understand if they don't agree with them and don't want to attend but try to say that if they do attend then please join in and don't make your friends feel bad as they will have put a lot of effort in. Or you could have one friends only and then book a nice lunch somewhere with family and say you know they didn't fancy the baby shower and thought it would be nice to have the personal time with them anyway? Having babies seems to be a bit like weddings where suddenly it seems to be very easy to upset people left, right and centre - it should really be about what you want.

honey I would tell your Dsis and DM that they don't have to come if they don't want to. It's happening because it matters to your friends and you, and would they please shut up. Probably worded a bit nicer...

Oh and 5hell good luck with your scan today! What time are you going in?

honey if you want a baby shower then you have a baby shower my love. Tell your mum she doesn't have to be there, or if she does come tell her to shut up
Really it's none of her business, it's about you and your baby and your friends wanting to support you.

Now is the time to grow a thick skin - I've had to stop caring about my DMs rather delicate feelings since having DS as she seemed to take everything I did with him personally

And incidentally she was a bit like it when we got married too!

Good luck today 5hell :)

rdm that's terrible!! Did you licence at all?? What a knobber!

My nipples are on fire they are so itchy.

Epi-no-ers - how is it going? I'm getting a bit frustrated with it because I'm just not sure I'm doing it right, have watched the videos but (sorry gross I know) it just seems to get sucked right in, in which case I can't see how it's stretching the right bit......I try to hold it in position but I just dunno if it's in the right place! It's making me cross!

Ooh I have just managed 8pm though but I don't know if that's any good because I think it was just stretching the insides!

8pm? 8cm!

bat 8cm! That's fabulous! Can you try holding it in place? I put it in half way, stretch legs out and cross them and hold it with my hand. I do find its a bit of a battle to keep it in the correct place.

honey what carrot said :D
Or do what I did - my friends really wanted a shower but i hated the idea of sitting opening presents in front of everyone..so I gave birth the day before it was supposed to happen!
A week today! How did that happen?!¿