We like these names - what else do you suggest?

[Zenzie]

Number two is a couple of months away and we're working on names shortlists. No idea if a boy or a girl, elder sister is Charlotte, and surname begins with N (so we're avoiding names beginning or ending with N).

Boy (middle name would be Douglas)
So far we like
Frederick
Casper
Felix
Edward (or similar)

Girl (middle name not set but perhaps Lilian)
So far we like
Genevieve
Josephine
Clover
Juniper (though we're a bit less keen on these latter two).

We're happy with these shortlists but would love to hear suggestions of other, similar names we might have overlooked. We especially like names with a few different diminutives, like Charlotte (who can be Charlie, Lotta, Lottie etc).

Thanks!

Love your shortlists! Felix, Edward, Casper, Josephine, Genevieve, Juniper, are all some of my favourite names.

Corisande
Elspeth
Estella
Francesca
Kerensa
Larissa
Marissa
Miranda
Miriam
Penelope
Vivienne

Jarvis
Nathaniel
Silas
Theodore

I think Josephine and Felix go best with Charlotte. Clover and Juniper are a bit out there compared to your other choices.

Victoria
Henrietta
Flora
Gabriella

Benedict
Cassius
Andrew
Marcus

I love Frederick, Caspar and Felix.

Josephine is really gorgeous and on our list as well, I also like Genevieve.

Henrick
Balthasar
Maximilian
Maxwell
Milo
Theodore
Erick
William
Bertram

Clementine
Alice
Katherine
Beatrice
Jacomina
Leandra
Leontine
Astrid

Clover.....conjures up images of a spread. Hubby also knows a saying about loose women having Clover legs.....a definite no no name for me

For boys what about:

Frank(lin?)
Ezra
Leo
Otto
Otis
Finley
Hector
Owen

Edward would be my pic of the boys (can shorten to ted also, if you like that)
Genevieve is a lovely name as is Josephine, they'd be my pic of the girls.

I have a Frederick (who might have been Josephine).

Other names we had:
Hugh
Laurence

Ramona
Zoe
Nancy

Clover 💓

Francis
Gabriel
Edmund
Edwin
Elliot
Benjamin
Arthur
William
Michael
Vincent
Patrick

Jennifer
Melinda
Cleo.
Clara
Clancy
Larina.
Lucinda
Abigail
Catherine
Penelope
Madeleine
Samantha
Vivienne
Carlotta
Monica
Elizabeth
Florence

Thanks for all of these suggestions, everyone. You've done an amazing job, these lists are full of names I love but can't use because of other family members who already have them, including my parents, grandparents and even my older daughter's middle name.

I think clover and juniper are unlikely to be used, which I'm sad about. I think they're great names but not right for us.

Francis is my beloved grandfather's name - what do people think? A little boy called Frank?

Also, Frederick Douglas N is a frontrunner name- does this conjour up any thoughts? I know there was an American statesman and abolitionist called Frederick Douglass but surely that doesn't matter.

I think Frank is coming back around to being cool again now. I'd love to use it.

I have to admit the first thought I had was Frederick Douglass when I saw your list, but surely that's a positive thing, what a man to have as your child's namesake!