Cannot find a girls name we love!

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Really struggling for girls names and looking for inspiration. Have the perfect boys name for us already, Albert. We love that its traditional and classic without being too popular, all the possible nicknames we love (Bert, Bertie, Albie) goes perfectly with 2 syllable surname and in our opinion can suit any characters. He could be a lawyer called Albert or a rock star called Bert!

We have the same criteria for a girls name but can't find one good name we both like! A lot of the problem is names by association and shortenings.

I like:
Valerie (but hate Val)
Penelope (but not Penny)
Evelyn (ev-uh-Lin) but DH hates it and we have an awful Evelyn in our family!
Beatrice (tentatively popping this here as still not sure and DH thinks too French)

DH likes:
Victoria (and Albert?!)
Florence (sadly makes me think of Aunt Flo!)

Any suggestions/fab ideas?!

Love the choice of Albert. I its my fave too atm with possible middle names of either Arthur or Edgar!

For a girl I love Matilda (tilda) , Ruth (Roo), Florence (aunt flo doesn't really bother me, I cant see it being an issue).
I also really like Lyra and Eliza.

Victoria is a lively name but imagine of you used it and then had a boy and wanted to use Albert and felt you couldn't because of already having Victoria.
I would find it quite amusing but then I am really into Royal history not everyone you meet will automatically make the connection (though I suspect a fair few will.)

Really love Albert and all it's nicknames.
From your girls list I really like Penelope and Beatrice. Not keen on Victoria and Florence ( but that's because I don't like Vicky or Flo)
How about Juliet? My current favourite

Adelaide
Adeline
Alice
Alicia
Antonia
Augusta
Caroline
Cecilia
Cecily
Celestia
Charlotte
Clara
Cordelia
Dorothy
Eloise
Erica
Esther
Felicity
Fiona
Flora
Gabriella
Genevieve
Gladys
Helena
Henrietta
Hester
Honor
Iris
Jemima
Juliana
Juliet
Liliana
Louisa
Lydia
Miranda
Natalie
Natasha
Nora/Norah
Rosanna
Rosalind
Samantha
Serena
Saskia
Seraphina
Susannah
Tabitha
Theodora
Zoe
Willa

I love the ones above, but what about as well,

Helen
Ellen
Ella
Joanna
Mary
Maria
Felicia
Marie
Mamie
Marianne
Marian
Lesley
Arabella
Georgiana
Roberta
Phoebe
Albertine/a
Jessica
Enid
Edith
Ann/e/ie/a
Astraeia
Frances/Francesca

Cecile

Lilian
Olive
Meg
Tess
Aurelia
Evangeline

Thanks everyone for your suggestions so far! I a, quite liking Caroline, Iris, Miranda (mainly cos I adore Miranda Hart!) and Joanna, although none I love like Albert!

Eloise, ashleigh?

Esme
Cora
Martha
Olive
Elsie
Betsy
Orla

Vanessa
Vivienne
Elizabeth (Betsy or Bunty)
Alexandra (Alexa, Lexi, Xandra, Sandy)

Christina (Chrissie, Tina, Christy)
Eleanor (nell, elle, ella, Nora)

or simply Mabel :)

Tabitha x primrose x Katherine

Oh Victoria is a brilliant name - choose that one!

You both seem to like the letter V... how about Violet or Viola?

I love Albert. I like all your girls choices apart from Valerie. I have considered all for my DD due in May. We have a DS George if that gives you some idea as to my taste.

However top of our list for girls is Elizabeth. Does that take your fancy?

Stella
Josephine
Miriam
Annabelle
Nina
Daphne
Harriet

Emerence
Ilona
Clara
Gabriella

oh emmylou I think we must have really similar taste, I was thinking Albert George! I love Elizabeth but its my sister's name so don't want to use it really. I do love Valerie though but I think we have definitely ruled it out due to the inevitable nn 'Val.'

Sunbathing I really love Josephine but for some reason DH has vetoed as it reminds him of Stalin!? Last night 'Edie' short for 'Edith' came up as a possibilty. Not massively keen on Edith but love Edie and would have the full name on the BC. Also DH has a little crush on Lady Edith of Downton which might have something to do with it!! I do like old lady names!

Bertie is such a cute name!

I really like Valerie from your list. Use V as a nickname.

Miranda is fab too.

What about Vivienne or Violet? Vivi for short?

See this is where the name association problem crops up! Whenever I hear 'violet' I get the song from Charlie and the chocolate factory in my head (violet beaurigarde,) chewing chewing chewing chewing chewing chewing all day long! Just me?

Vivienne is mils middle name and very pretty but don't to school with a really scary 'Viv.' She stole my coat once and wore it it to my own disco party! Lol!

Nell can be a nn for Penelope, which is sweet. Also Polly or Poppy at a push. Obviously, there is the risk of schoolfriends choosing to shorten to Penny instead even if it is not the nn you use. My experience is that if there is a nn in common useage, people do tend to use that and not another one, so if you are mainly using Nell (or Polly or whatever) i doubt she would end up being Penny. However, if you mainly use the full name Penelope, then I think there is quite a high risk of friends shortening to Penny. The 2 Alberts I know have sisters called Louisa (lulu or Lou), Katherine (all sorts of nns) and Genevieve (she is mainly Evie but there are other shortenings - could be Vivi or Genie etc).

Have you thought of Laura? Beautiful name, now underused, and with lots of literary / cultural history. I sounds beautiful across Europe too.

Or also Claudia.