David Walliams

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To Think it could not have been DW??

I'm not entirely sure who you're talking about.

But generally speaking, as well as an employment situation, NDAs are also used when companies want to keep sensitive information private.

For example, you might be visiting a company and they have some super secret process or something. They may require you to sign an NDA before they will show you that process.

In an entertainment setting, it may be that the NDA will be there so that people don't take photos or record any conversation that was had. A fan may have been told that they can speak to DW but they need to sign an NDA so that they don't share any photos they may take or repeat anything they spoke about.

However, if a person is a victim of crime (or reasonably believes that they are) then an NDA cannot prevent you talking to the police. For example, if a fan signed an NDA and then was subjected to unwanted physical contact then the NDA would not prevent them from reporting this to the police.

However, unless you actually know this then a young person may be fearful of reporting an offence to the police simply because they don't realise that they can go to the police regardless of having signed an NDA.

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The law on NDAs changed last year and with any NDAs signed since then (so this doesn't apply to older NDAs) a victim of crime can also speak to a regulated professional (eg solicitor, doctor, nurse, social worker, teacher etc) or charity for the purpose of getting help or support. Even if you don't report anything to the police.

The new government guidance on this says:

"For example, you have been asked to sign an NDA by a high-profile acquaintance about an incident where they hit you. You report it to the police, and the individual is charged. You then go to a victim support service to get advice on how you navigate the criminal justice system and to get specialist support to help you mentally cope with the impact of the crime. During your engagement with this support service, you are able to tell them about the criminal conduct for the purpose of obtaining support from that service in relation to the crime, even if your NDA says you can’t."

You can now also talk to certain family members, a parent, child, or partner for the purpose of getting support in relation to any criminal activity even if the NDA says that you can't. But this doesn't cover other people such as a cousin or friends.

True. Criminal acts by men don’t decrease as income goes down.

This is depressingly true.

As pp said, I believe the law is changing for the better but, for example, a victim could have complained about the behaviour of a colleague at work but if the company cared more about the income stream provided by the person who behaved inappropriately, they might decide to recompense the victim and manage them out, but as a condition of receiving their pay off, they are forced to sign an NDA.

Read somewhere of a schoolgirl on Instagram randomly got a follow by Walliams. He was 48 at the time. It was clear she was still at school because some of her grid was her and her mates in school uniform etc. She had never had any contact with him before, never followed him etc. She wanted to take her mum to a BGT recording for a birthday treat. He arranged the tickets. When she got there the guest tickets for all the seats DW had reserved were full of young girls. The production team moved her and her mum out of the DW guest area and put them in the front row. She noted DW kept looking at the empty seats. She went to see him afterwards with her mum and he said where were you, you were meant to see me before the show. He invited her to an aftershow party. A security guard showed them out and warned her mum to not attend the party. She went home with her mum. I don’t think she had any more contact with him. She is now an instagrammer, may have appeared on reality tv. He stopped following her when she aged out.

Now, Simon C, Amanda H and Aleysha D are not blind. Did they not see that his guest sections at the many shows that it takes to record one series, were all young girls. Amanda H has girls in the age range, would she not think it odd that a middle aged man was only inviting teenage girls? I am not blaming her for what he did, but it is just an indication that anything goes in that world. And not just that world - his publishers wouldn’t allow single young females to be alone with him.

Money is at the root of all this. Blind eyes being turned if they are earning them revenue. Nobody is that talented that can be given carte blanche to act immorally or illegally.

I am wondering what Alesha and Amanda think about all of this.

There was a whole thread on here about why Matt Lucas hasn't said anything since the documentary. Well over 100 posts, 80% saying "he must have known", "he must have seen things", "why hasn't he made a statement".

He's not worked with him very much in the last 12 or so years, whereas Amanda and Alesha have worked with him and awful lot in that time. There were specific allegations in the documentary about girls visiting him at BGT. The guy who spoke to Lucy Beaumont about what he saw the previous year sounds almost certain to be at BGT.

Hardly anyone asking the women what they "must have seen" or asking "why haven't they made a statement".

I suspect the answer is all of them gave been told by their lawyers to keep shtum for now, as they'll be damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Matt and DW were working on a podcast a year ago. Before it was cancelled. So they were in contact. There was chat they were going to bring back Little Britain - not on terrestrial tv, but somewhere they would have control over.

Amanda Holden has teenage daughters. She must be appalled at his predatory and perverted behaviour. I wonder if she turned a blind eye to keep her high profile job though? And ensured her girls didn't interact with him at all.

Were they friends? Realise it can all be fake for tv, but they looked like they could be pals? Alisha perhaps not so much

Yes, that was pretty much all they had done together in 12 years. Prior to that they hadn't worked together for years. Walliams wanted to revive Little Britain a couple of times but Lucas has always said no. He doesn't need to do it, he does West End musicals now.

Point remains, Walliams has spent far more time working with Holden and Dixon for the last decade. Why is almost no one demanding to know why they're so quiet or claiming they must have seen things like Lucas?

And obviously Cowell too! Not just the women....

There was already the vile comments Walliams made about contestants - the ones about a woman were aggressively sexual. He made those comments to another judge .... that has never been reported? This was settled 3 years ago but I noticed that someone from the production company are now saying it was leaked on purpose to show what DW is like. Silence from Simon, Alesha and Amanda .....

Britain's Got Talent: David Walliams reaches 'amicable resolution' in privacy case - BBC News

Oh, 100% Absolutely. But I was specifically referring to the PP asking what Amanda and Alesha think and how different the response has been to them compared with Matt Lucas.

I purchased the kindle version that’s still available even though I’m going to struggle to find the time to read it

apparently she gets a bigger cut from the audiobook if anyone’s still thinking of buying it

Because they can get away with it.

What action do people think that Simon Cowell (who should always be mentioned if you are mentioning the other two) Amanda and Alisha should have taken? Something like a request to the producers that no one should be able to have guests under 18 in their audience area?

@BrandiedAromatics i thought those comments were reported and were why he
was sacked?

Yes, as in the article I shared above, sorry I wasn't clear: He made those comments to another judge .... that has never been reported? Another of them A, A, or S - listened to DW's feelings on contestants .... who? I understand that S has had nothing to do with DW since he left BGT ... Alesha has said she values DW as a friend ....

There shouldn't be any under-18s on BGT or similar shows - it's not right to put a child in the national spotlight like that.

Yes, obviously.
I think I'd just like to know what the females working with him thought.

They don't think. They look at their bank balance.

Not on the show - in the audience (as one of the points upthread was about who DW had as his guests)

I agree with you about the show itself.

A colleague told me about how apparently DW wanted to include in his autobiography about him and his sister’s unusually close relationship but his management vetoed it. Not sure what that means exactly - and don't want to Google it to find out!

Increasingly, it looks as if his marriage was mere window-dressing to hide his nasty sexual preferences behind. Something very disturbing about a man who seeks out the company of teenage girls when he is attractive, successful and could form relationships with any number of adult women. I just think, disgusting misogynist. A man who does not view women as being fully human, and feels challenged by a female partner operating as an equal.