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Being made to feel like an idiot for crying at stag do behaviour

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Laurennn23 · Yesterday 18:03

I will try to keep this succinct, it’s quite easily summed up. DH went on a close friend’s stag weekend in the summer (abroad), mix of golf/drinking.

At the Wedding, I found out that the group went to a strip club and as a forfeit for losing in the golf that day, they all paid for him to be subject of a private ‘show’ where he was humiliated. This was drunkenly put to me as ‘being dildoed up’ - he swears it was just him being stripped and hit with his belt before he put to a stop to it.

I found out that some of the partner’s knew about this happening, and no one thought to tell me which I am a bit hurt by as I’m quite close with a couple of them. I only found out because one of his friends drunkenly blurted it out at the wedding to me.

I had a bit of a cry in the toilets at the wedding and was basically told to get a grip by one of the two I mentioned and that it’s par for the course. DH was initially apologetic but has told me to get over it and stop going on and ‘that reaction is exactly why I didn’t tell you’.

I suppose I’m looking for an outside view. Should I ‘get over it’ or am I entitled to feel upset still?

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SueSheeMee · Yesterday 18:07

I'm so sorry, I know you're upset (and rightfully so IMO), but your use of 'par for the course' in the context of this story was so epic, I just had to mention it.

Arlanymor · Yesterday 18:09

I wouldn't ever cry over something like that - we're all different after all - but I would want to know why he hadn't thought to mention it. I think you are entitled to feel frustrated and annoyed with him, although if someone else is telling you to get a grip it doesn't sound like you had a discreet, quiet moment to compose yourself in the toilets. It's the kind of situation you sit on in the moment and then have the conversation when you get home - not at someone else's wedding.

NoHangoversToday · Yesterday 18:10

Well- tbh if going to a place where women are being exploited and your DH is being humiliated by his friends for laughs then I have to wonder what pretty disgusting circles you mix in where this is normal.

I'm sorry. It's not you. At all. It's them. All of them.

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 18:11

You feel how you feel OP. It's seems grim to me too. Men and their obsession with sexual fetishism.

OrangeFlower14 · Yesterday 18:11

I would be upset because it would mean that my DH was mixing with some really awful people

I guess that’s why you’re upset? Did you know you’d married into that kind of social situation?

LoveWine123 · Yesterday 18:14

How did you “go on about it”? You said you cried…what else did you do? Why is he saying you go on about it?

StarDolphins · Yesterday 18:14

Yes that’s grim and his friends and their partners sound grim too.

nomas · Yesterday 18:18

NoHangoversToday · Yesterday 18:10

Well- tbh if going to a place where women are being exploited and your DH is being humiliated by his friends for laughs then I have to wonder what pretty disgusting circles you mix in where this is normal.

I'm sorry. It's not you. At all. It's them. All of them.

This. OP, are you crying because you’re normal and they’re all disgusting?

Because that is completely valid.

nocoolnamesleft · Yesterday 18:20

Total ick.

Lindy2 · Yesterday 18:21

I'd be upset for my DH if his friends had behaved like that. That's on the basis that I know my DH well and I know he would be extremely uncomfortable if put in that situation.

Do you believe your DH put a stop to it? Why did his friend describe it as being dildoed up? (What a gross phrase). I'd be very concerned that something more had taken place.

I'd be telling my DH that this isn't how true friends treat each other and it isn't something to laugh about. You want to point out his friends really aren't very nice people. You can't stop him seeing them but I'd be keeping my distance.

I'm assuming you're from a group where people are now starting to get married but don't yet have kids. Hopefully some of them will grow up before they start families.

jeaux90 · Yesterday 18:21

It’s absolutely disgraceful that they all went to a place where women are treated like commodities to be consumed. It would be divorce.

Megifer · Yesterday 18:21

Thing is op, there is always, always, always more to whatever it is they admit to.

Being "humiliated" in a private dance 🤔 sounds like a load of bollocks. Being hit with his own belt - nah. Him putting a stop to it, yea right.

And the partners are likely just acting cool to get their cool wife points banked. Sad for them really.

Yanbu and it will be very hard to move past.

perhaps you could suggest you stick your naked tits and fanny into a neighbour's face for £80 and see what he says.

dnadiscoveryquery · Yesterday 18:22

LoveWine123 · Yesterday 18:14

How did you “go on about it”? You said you cried…what else did you do? Why is he saying you go on about it?

They usually say a woman is going on about something if

a) it’s mentioned more than once

b) they’re guilty.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Yesterday 18:23

Sounds like you are not really that compatible in your views to be honest.

wqwq · Yesterday 18:24

Megifer · Yesterday 18:21

Thing is op, there is always, always, always more to whatever it is they admit to.

Being "humiliated" in a private dance 🤔 sounds like a load of bollocks. Being hit with his own belt - nah. Him putting a stop to it, yea right.

And the partners are likely just acting cool to get their cool wife points banked. Sad for them really.

Yanbu and it will be very hard to move past.

perhaps you could suggest you stick your naked tits and fanny into a neighbour's face for £80 and see what he says.

A stag being hit by his belt is, apparently, quite common.

Makebelieveanotherlife · Yesterday 18:32

Summerhillsquare · Yesterday 18:11

You feel how you feel OP. It's seems grim to me too. Men and their obsession with sexual fetishism.

Don’t forget the women who told her to get over it and the women in the group who knew and chose to say nothing. ALL as bad as each other.

ginasevern · Yesterday 18:35

I'm amazed that women are still shocked by men's obsession with sex and fetishes. And I doubt the OP's husband was dragged screaming to participate, no matter what bloody crap he comes out with. Very few men go on stag weekends to muse over the complexities of real ale and play wholesome games of golf.

AnneLovesGilbert · Yesterday 18:35

Your reaction to something so revolting is completely normal and understandable. He’s disgusting and the people defending it are pathetic. What are you going to do?

sweetpotatopie2 · Yesterday 18:46

My take on it is first, of course you were hurt and angry because you were deceived about something that included "sex-ness" and your DH (fiance, at the time). That is perfectly understandable and of course you're not an idiot. After all, if it was no big deal then why did they all conspire to keep it from you, hmmm? Your husband, and the rest of the guys, and the other guys' partners, all knew it was an issue and that proves it, if there is any doubt (which there isn't).

But then there's also that whole other side of this. It is a longstanding, though icky tradition for a guy's buddies to drag him to a strip club at his bachelor's do, where shenanigans ensue, his last taste of singlehood, a rite of passing. We also know this, correct?

Imagine husband (fiance at the time), these are his buddies, they've arranged a big naughty thing, followed the ick but existing custom. This is not sex-sex, it's the wild fun of being naughty and stupid and drunk with your pals, the last hurrah. Imagine yourself in a similar position. Your nearest and dearest gal pals drag you to see male strippers. Once there, you're in the spotlight, everyone howling with laughter and cheering you on. What do you do? Go along with it or shut it down, putting your friends in their place when they were obviously trying to arrange a big naughty memorable last hurrah in your honor?

As for nobody else telling you, well obviously, the guilty friends do not want to touch this later with a ten-foot pole . And it's likely some, most or all of their partners didn't know, or were only told a cleaned-up version, or didn't think it was a big deal anyway. It's likely nobody knew what you knew or didn't know but wouldn't want to set themselves up for trouble by telling you. Listen, in the real world, nobody wants to be a snitch. After all, there can be huge repercussions for it.

I think he got caught on the spot and tried to maneuver it in the way he thought would be best, keeping in mind he was under tremendous peer pressure, publicly, without warning and likely half-drunk too. Of course he didn't want to take a big stand and be School Marm Super Dork in front of all his stupid friends. Then of course, he thought, oh shit. My girl will never, ever understand this. I better just. Be. Quiet. This is all quite juvenile and stupid of course, but I do not think it's even remotely comparable to him having an affair or anything like that.

In summary, if you follow and agree with my reasoning, I'd say yes, it's definitely quite understandable that you were upset and also yes, you should follow where his mind was at and the situation he was put into and forgive him. Now if he sneaks off to a strip club without your permission any other time, that's different.

I've always felt like these bachelor and bachelorette things were a very terrible idea in the first place because them leading to this kind of upset between the couple is very, very, very common. I got married decades ago when all this crap was even worse. What my husband and I did was announce that we didn't want any separate bachelor and bachelorette (or whatever they're called now) dos, we wanted a joint bachelor/bachelorette dinner instead, and that's what we had. I don't feel like people who are engaged are really still single, they've already made that commitment to each other, so why be set up for trouble in the first place? Sorry this is so long. I hope it's helpful to you. :)

Charlize43 · Yesterday 18:47

Red flags. Rainbow flags. Can't for the life of me imagine why a group of men on a stag would enjoy watching a man getting 'dildoed up,' and then your husband telling you 'don't make a fuss, dear'.

I'd ask if this was going to be a regular occurrence.

WhereverIlaymycatthatsmyhome · Yesterday 18:52

I would lose all respect for him, going to a place like that.

Megifer · Yesterday 18:58

He wasnt the stag though.

outerspacepotato · Yesterday 19:01

Did they pull a gun on him and threaten to shoot him and his wife and kids and they're the types that would? No?

He chose to participate in a sex show with trafficked women.

I wouldn't be crying, I'd file for divorce and get STI testing. Using getting married as an excuse to go fuck sex workers and act like degenerate shits is marriage ending.

NiftyKoala · Yesterday 19:05

It's grim but I highly doubt he was this upset by it. The forfeiting the game leading to this sounds exactly like what one would say to try to look better in the situation.

ThePoetsWife · Yesterday 19:07

a Man’s friends tell you a lot about him and his values

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