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AIBU to be worried about rising fuel and energy costs this winter?

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HonorBound · 18/09/2026 19:24

on Monday went past Sainsbury and fuel was £1.61, went past Tesco tonight and its £1.70 - I'm guessing they've all put their prices up and there are 3 supermarkets within 1.5 miles

I'm leaving the car at home as much as possible, and certainly used less fuel than I normally would have by half way through the month

gas is going up on 1 October along with electric

things are going to be tight this winter

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BurntBroccoli · Yesterday 11:11

Crediblehedge · 18/09/2026 22:08

We have oil heating (no gas mains in the village and our fire place was taken out before we moved in)

We finally had enough money together to buy oil last week and it was near double the cost compared to the prices in August. We paid over £1 per litre, it was 60p when we last checked knowing we almost had the money together.

It will be used sparingly, we got 300 litres and it was a little over £300

Electric blankets are jumpers seem to be the theme for the winter. Running the car will be hard. Luckily we have the cupboards stocked and some veg still in the ground.

Are you in NI? In England the minimum order is 500 litres so an eye wateringly expensive amount to fork out at once.

Trump has lot to answer for.

WhitegreeNcandle · Yesterday 11:12

HonorBound · Yesterday 09:43

I would like to see UC for working people prevented, we can't keep blaming the government for the greed of large companies.

Fuel was £1.65 last week and 2 days later the file has increased to £1.71 - the same fuel on the forecourt, a delivery hasn't come in yet the same fuel is increased in price. Whilst the government tax the fuel both duty and VAT, it hasn't increased this duty for 14 years. It has decreased the duty for a period of time.

No forecourt protests about price increases though

It’s not always the greed of big companies. We sell a product to the supermarket most people will put in their basket weekly. The supermarkets know our input costs down to the penny. They effectively pay us a guarantee margin. They know how many man hours it takes to produce x or our product. Every single hour is charged at NMW. Not a penny more for management, experience, overtime, housing or unsociable hours.

Every time the cost of NMW goes up the cost of what you buy in the supermarket goes up.

In reality, what happens is that the cost of UK produce gets so expensive consumers and businesses go elsewhere. It’s doubtful clothes makers in china are paid a decent NMW. Farmers in other parts of the world definitely don’t have the standards we do. The salmonella outbreak at the moment is partly caused because it’s cheaper to import Ukrainian egg than buy British.

WhitegreeNcandle · Yesterday 11:13

Ps to those with heating oil most councils have help available to those in need.

Allseeingallknowing · Yesterday 11:15

hattie43 · Yesterday 07:52

I’m honestly thinking it would be cheaper to book a 6 mth out of season hotel room in Spain than funding a winter here .

Except that you’d no longer be eligible for free NHS care!

BurntBroccoli · Yesterday 11:22

WhitegreeNcandle · Yesterday 11:13

Ps to those with heating oil most councils have help available to those in need.

Only if you are on benefits. I’m on a low income but can’t claim anything so don’t qualify.

Ihateboris · Yesterday 11:26

BurntBroccoli · Yesterday 11:22

Only if you are on benefits. I’m on a low income but can’t claim anything so don’t qualify.

I've applied but not eligible as I don't claim benefits

BurntBroccoli · Yesterday 11:27

WhitegreeNcandle · Yesterday 11:12

It’s not always the greed of big companies. We sell a product to the supermarket most people will put in their basket weekly. The supermarkets know our input costs down to the penny. They effectively pay us a guarantee margin. They know how many man hours it takes to produce x or our product. Every single hour is charged at NMW. Not a penny more for management, experience, overtime, housing or unsociable hours.

Every time the cost of NMW goes up the cost of what you buy in the supermarket goes up.

In reality, what happens is that the cost of UK produce gets so expensive consumers and businesses go elsewhere. It’s doubtful clothes makers in china are paid a decent NMW. Farmers in other parts of the world definitely don’t have the standards we do. The salmonella outbreak at the moment is partly caused because it’s cheaper to import Ukrainian egg than buy British.

But that NMW is needed for people to be able to live and afford rent, utilities and food.

More housing needs to be built so the relative price of housing falls over time and people feel better off. Public transport prices also need to drop.

BurntBroccoli · Yesterday 11:28

Ihateboris · Yesterday 11:26

I've applied but not eligible as I don't claim benefits

Same here.

Ihateboris · Yesterday 11:33

BurntBroccoli · Yesterday 11:28

Same here.

Despite having a low income!

Crediblehedge · Yesterday 15:29

BurntBroccoli · Yesterday 11:11

Are you in NI? In England the minimum order is 500 litres so an eye wateringly expensive amount to fork out at once.

Trump has lot to answer for.

Yup NI, we can buy any amount from 100 litres from a delivery company or buy at the pump in a lot of petrol stations. It's just as expensive to buy at the pump at the moment, usually you get it a few pence cheaper.

Crunchymum · Yesterday 15:53

For once being a non driver pays off.

We're lucky to live centrally and stopped running a car years ago but we will never be able to afford to run one again. Not with the rising costs everywhere else.

Our utilities are going up by £104 per annum (well this is the current personalised figure Octopus gave me) which isn't too bad?

It is all bad, bad, bad news though. I think the vast majority need to be prepared for lean times ahead.

HonorBound · Yesterday 19:18

For once being a non driver pays off.

supermarkets will blame price increases on food down to fuel to transport (cynical)

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HonorBound · Yesterday 19:22

Allseeingallknowing · Yesterday 11:15

Except that you’d no longer be eligible for free NHS care!

you can stay for 90 days not 180 if you are a British passport holder only - but you can take a GHIC with you, this means you can get treatment for the same price as a local.

I paid €20 for an ambience to A&E and the subsequent visit and treatment in a&e

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HonorBound · Yesterday 19:25

WhitegreeNcandle · Yesterday 11:12

It’s not always the greed of big companies. We sell a product to the supermarket most people will put in their basket weekly. The supermarkets know our input costs down to the penny. They effectively pay us a guarantee margin. They know how many man hours it takes to produce x or our product. Every single hour is charged at NMW. Not a penny more for management, experience, overtime, housing or unsociable hours.

Every time the cost of NMW goes up the cost of what you buy in the supermarket goes up.

In reality, what happens is that the cost of UK produce gets so expensive consumers and businesses go elsewhere. It’s doubtful clothes makers in china are paid a decent NMW. Farmers in other parts of the world definitely don’t have the standards we do. The salmonella outbreak at the moment is partly caused because it’s cheaper to import Ukrainian egg than buy British.

so you are ok with working for NMW and having all that experience and overtime, unsociable hours disregarded ?

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HonorBound · Yesterday 19:28

I've just been looking at my Octopus account online. I was loads in credit, so I've requested a refund, and reduced my direct debit by £18. I'd rather keep my money in my own account, thanks.

make sure you give them a meter reading on 1 October - otherwise they will estimate how much gas and electric you used at the lower price before 1st October and how much you used at the new much higher price after 1st October

and im sure ive been caught out before with them estimating ive used much less at the lower price

octopus, you can just give a meter reading monthly and pay what you owe, you don't have to have a DD and overpay

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NotPerfectlyAdverage · Yesterday 20:45

I have just put £22 petrol in my car to drive 100 miles. Luckily I have only done 100 miles this week. But got to drop eldest back to uni tomorrow. I'm going to keep my car topped up. £100 to fill it up is going to be too depressing

HonorBound · Yesterday 20:49

NotPerfectlyAdverage · Yesterday 20:45

I have just put £22 petrol in my car to drive 100 miles. Luckily I have only done 100 miles this week. But got to drop eldest back to uni tomorrow. I'm going to keep my car topped up. £100 to fill it up is going to be too depressing

So are you only getting 8 miles to the litre?

what car are you driving

I must admit Im very careful with lifting my foot off the accelerator, not speeding off from traffic lights or junctions to conserve fuel, but I get 64 miles to the gallon on a trip, so 14 miles to the litre

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SoftBoiled · Yesterday 20:58

HonorBound · Yesterday 07:42

wages are to low and if we were angry rather than passive, we’d be protesting about the low wages.

when you e got the likes of Starbucks putting staff on salary instead of hourly paid, so they don’t get paid for overtime

tesco, staff 50p over nmw (they employed 330,000 total staff) and £937 million paid to shareholders, yet a large proportion of the staff claim UC. So we pay tax which indirectly goes to a large company to top up their wages. Wages need to be raised to lower the tax burden

when are we going to be frustrated enough to protest about the greed of keeping workers on handouts

Yes, this is cynical beyond belief -people in employment having to claim benefits, the taxpayer subsidising corporations who pay insufficient wages. Ditto rents being so high that again, the taxpayer funds payments to landlords through benefits. It's immoral. Capitalists literally banking on the state filling in the earnings gap. It should be possible to pay for housing, utilities and food out of a living wage.

Magicpaintbrush · Yesterday 22:04

Sorry if anyone has already mentioned this but Martyn Lewis has said that in Jaunary energy costs will be going up by 24% - I couldn't believe what I was hearing, but that's what he said.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B7XL4ZBfUqE

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FindingMeno · Yesterday 22:23

Magicpaintbrush · Yesterday 22:04

Sorry if anyone has already mentioned this but Martyn Lewis has said that in Jaunary energy costs will be going up by 24% - I couldn't believe what I was hearing, but that's what he said.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B7XL4ZBfUqE

Bloody hell 😳 😫
Absolutely horrific prospect for anyone who has vulnerable household members and can't turn the heating down/off.

summater · Yesterday 22:27

It's probably best to fix now if you haven't on one of those comparison websites because of the January price

NotPerfectlyAdverage · Yesterday 22:35

HonorBound · Yesterday 20:49

So are you only getting 8 miles to the litre?

what car are you driving

I must admit Im very careful with lifting my foot off the accelerator, not speeding off from traffic lights or junctions to conserve fuel, but I get 64 miles to the gallon on a trip, so 14 miles to the litre

12 year old Zafira

dustabsorber · Yesterday 22:37

I will just have the heating on for 2 hrs in the morning and 2 hrs at night. During the day, I will go to the library or the leisure centre and they can keep me warm.

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · Yesterday 22:41

Hopefully people around the world will finally wake up and stop voting for the rightwing governments that are causing all this

dustabsorber · Yesterday 22:42

BurntBroccoli · Yesterday 11:27

But that NMW is needed for people to be able to live and afford rent, utilities and food.

More housing needs to be built so the relative price of housing falls over time and people feel better off. Public transport prices also need to drop.

I doubt the government can build enough houses to cover the annual increase in population due to immigration.