Lying about a WhatsApp message

[MurphysColeslaw]

If you sent a WhatsApp message which started off ‘Read this carefully, and to the end but then deleted it 8 hours later.
If the recipient then replied ‘I can’t read it if you’ve deleted it’ AIBU to presume they did actually read it and are lying?

😂

First time on AIBU
fucking last too

when you send a message, it will appear on their whatsapp, which they can read at their leisure.

If however, you delete the message, before they even open it, instead of your original message it will only show that you'd sent a message, but that you'd deleted it.

So instead of your original (which you subsequently deleted) all that will show on their screen, is who the message was from but instead of your original text it will only show "message deleted"

Based solely on your comments so far, I suspect many of us are already Team Other Person.

Well, it's not very clear.. I mean people have told you that you can see the first sentence pop up as notification. If the person has read it or not- noone can tell you except that person. Why would they lie and want you to send it again ? How old are you?

This is so fucking weird, if you want to tell them something then tell them instead of deleting it?

Most likely they saw 'Read this carefully and to the end' and decided to look at it properly later, by which time it had been deleted. You can guess better than we can because you know the person. Are they the sort to immediately focus on a worrying-looking message or more the sort to leave it for a while?

Why would you send someone something important that you wanted them to read, then delete it?

It’s absolutely impossible for us to say whether it has been read or not.

God you’re hard work. Don’t delete mssgs if ur then going to start a bloody thread about. How would we know if they read it!

Totally 🤣

I completely disagree. I don't think it means they've read it at all. But there's clearly something you want from this post so what's really going on?

Don't you see how bonkers this sounds though? Talking in riddles really doesn't help you either. If you aren't going to be clear on what you actually want, then it's probably not worth bothering to post.

@MurphysColeslaw this is what will show on their screen

No, that reply is categorically not indicative that it has been read. Double blue ticks do that. Were they?

Why did you delete it? And then charge this poor sod as using ‘a convenient out’?!!! You created it FFS!!!

You sound v dramatic and haaaaaard work….

What in the drama llama is that kind of messsage?! Unless you’re a spy or a scammer it is just attention seeking surely.

Yes, on Apple car play, I just say listen to new messages or listen to new what’s app and it reads them while I’m driving, it then asks me if I would like to reply and I say my reply and it sends it via text

Id think you were an attention seeking drama queen and not bothered reading it nor replying.

If you are this much hard work here, with people you haven't fallen out with, I'm going to assume real life you is A LOT, and the 'accidently' missed your message during the time limit you gave them.
Also, why delete shit if you want them to reply/deal with it? That's just making things harder

At what point did I say I’d fallen out with somebody?

You didn't, I inferred it by the phrasing, you're assumptions that the recipient would have lied about seeing it, the fact that you had to start the message with telling the person to read it carefully, the fact you deleted the message......

If you really wanted them to read it, why did you delete it?

As mentioned by PP, they may have read it, but may also have previewed it on their lock screen (which would have shown some but not all of the message, if it was long). Is that a possibility, OP?

Are you in mi6?this message will delete in 8 hours.

You sound like a drama queen or a young teen

I don’t think you can presume they’re lying.

i think it would be reasonable of you to presume they’re rolled their eyes and decided it was possibly not a good idea to read your message as it was likely to be the start (or escalation) of a row.