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To think banning fried eggs is a step too far?

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NameChanger2026 · 13/09/2026 23:24

Whilst I agree with most of this, what’s wrong with an egg in decent oil?

To think banning fried eggs is a step too far?
OP posts:
FairAmberEagle · Yesterday 11:22

bcisagtwt · Yesterday 08:28

Laughing at the idea this is a “step too far”, we have a LONG way to go before we can start saying the pendulum has swung too far. We are in a mess. I’d like to see a reduction in ultra processed stuff more than anything else, but with the need to keep everything as cheap as possible, plus some profiteering in the meantime by some third party providers, that’s not happening.

Are you a Virgo?

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 11:22

HelpfulHelena · Yesterday 11:21

If these are the guidelines, why is it possible for my dd to be allowed to purchase a choc chip cookie at break, an icecream and a soft drink at lunch, and a “chicken meal deal” which is basically quite poor quality unhealthy chicken wings and salad or a Jumbo sausage roll and nothing else?

Occasionally she’ll have a pasta pot - fairly sure that is white pasta and a basic tomato sauce.

Secondary school is surely the problem here…

I don't believe the new guidelines have started yet.

HelpfulHelena · Yesterday 11:26

So this was my DD’s diet last week at school:

Mon - chicken, pasta pot and a cookie
Tues - chicken, and cookie
Weds - two cookies
Thursday - one cookie
Fri - chicken and potato wedge pot

I think she’s allowed salad but not sure

Grammarnut · Yesterday 11:27

Eggs fried in a light oil are not less healthy than poached or scrambled eggs. Daft prohibition.
Chips are ambrosia. Do them in the oven with a light spray of oil and they are fine.

HelpfulHelena · Yesterday 11:30

So this is the lunchtime hot food menu at dd secondary school: what is good about this!???

Jacket Potato /Toppings
Pasta Pot
Hot Wrap / Burrito
Burger
Hot Sub Roll
Filled Flatbread
Panini
Hot Pastries
Chicken Pot
Flavoured Corn Pot
Wedges
Soup Cup
Margherita Pizza
Topped Pizza
Loaded Wedges
Hash Browns
Samosa
Bacon/ Sausage Roll

Ethelspagetti · Yesterday 11:34

MumofCandR · Yesterday 05:43

I agree - it's cereal that should be completely banned, zero nutritional value and high in sugars( other than muesli and porridge)..

Agreed about the cereals. We have eggs on toast in this house for breakfast. Cereals are full of sugar.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 11:35

Grammarnut · Yesterday 11:27

Eggs fried in a light oil are not less healthy than poached or scrambled eggs. Daft prohibition.
Chips are ambrosia. Do them in the oven with a light spray of oil and they are fine.

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I have the impression that the prohibition is actually the oil. I can’t imagine it’s particularly good quality given the budgets allocated for school meals. I remember when I was doing weight watchers fried eggs weren’t a prohibited food as long as they were cooked in a non stick pan with only a teaspoon of oil. I have a horrible feeling that school meals fried eggs would be practically deep fried !!

HelpfulHelena · Yesterday 11:37

If everyone at secondary school sat down to a decently cooked meal - a proper bolognese or tomato pasta with a side of free beans, carrots and broccoli. It would be SO much better than being confronted with a HUGE list of snacks and crap and expected to make the healthy choice in front of peers.

Another76543 · Yesterday 11:57

HelpfulHelena · Yesterday 11:37

If everyone at secondary school sat down to a decently cooked meal - a proper bolognese or tomato pasta with a side of free beans, carrots and broccoli. It would be SO much better than being confronted with a HUGE list of snacks and crap and expected to make the healthy choice in front of peers.

I agree. Unfortunately, as a country, we don’t place enough of an emphasis on decent food. You only have to look at the mainstream media and social media; so many articles on cutting the weekly food shopping budget. Generations ago, a much bigger proportion of household income was spent on food than it is now. I appreciate that most families are stretched and don’t have spare money, but I’d cut down on pretty much everything else before I cut down on decent food. The food offering in state education and the NHS is dreadful; it’s all about doing it as cheaply as possible. I’m not even convinced it’s actually that cheap, as they use external providers who want a profit. They produce food to maximise their profit. We need to move back to proper in house kitchens preparing fresh food daily rather than buying it in.

Our (private) school menu this week consists of spaghetti carbonara with a choice of veg and salad, turkey curry with 2 veg, salmon with fries and 3 veg, a proper roast dinner with veg, beef fajitas with 2 veg, grilled chicken with veg and salad. Admittedly they don’t have the same budget constraints, but if the state system was funded properly (or waste cut down) there is no reason why they couldn’t prepare healthy food. It’s prepared in house, and there is no choice. There is 1 item on the menu (there is veggie option and I think there’s jacket option a couple of days a week), so everyone eats the same. That cuts down on waste. It was the same at primary. They see their friends eating it, so they eat it. There’s a proper dessert each day, and soup. There’s no packed lunch option. Water to drink.

Jiggerypokesy · Yesterday 11:58

NameChanger2026 · Yesterday 09:14

I’m guessing poaching is a little more hassle for a big group of kids.
risk with scrambled or omelette is they might use that awful pre made mix that some buffet breakfast hotels use.
At least with fried you know you’re getting a simple fresh egg and it’s quick and foolproof for the staff.

It’s so disappointing this is your take from this. It’s all about healthy eating and your issue is about fried eggs. Why not praise them for the fact they’re trying to address a really serious issue of young people’s heath, obesity is a serious and growing issue and bowel cancer is increasing for younger and younger people.

That’s way, way more of an issue than fried eggs at school, but as usual people who like to moan are focussing on irrelevances.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 12:01

Brightcrow · Yesterday 09:21

No you’re right we all like different things. But I’ve tried scrambling without oil and I can’t get the texture right at all. I might try again and add chilli and Indian spices though and maybe a drizzle of chilli oil!

Try doing it in the microwave. It’s a bit more of a faff because you have to stir every now and then, but they come out light and fluffy and you don’t need fat. Just a bit of salt and pepper. I quite like a few chopped fresh chives mixed in before cooking.

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 12:02

Another76543 · Yesterday 11:57

I agree. Unfortunately, as a country, we don’t place enough of an emphasis on decent food. You only have to look at the mainstream media and social media; so many articles on cutting the weekly food shopping budget. Generations ago, a much bigger proportion of household income was spent on food than it is now. I appreciate that most families are stretched and don’t have spare money, but I’d cut down on pretty much everything else before I cut down on decent food. The food offering in state education and the NHS is dreadful; it’s all about doing it as cheaply as possible. I’m not even convinced it’s actually that cheap, as they use external providers who want a profit. They produce food to maximise their profit. We need to move back to proper in house kitchens preparing fresh food daily rather than buying it in.

Our (private) school menu this week consists of spaghetti carbonara with a choice of veg and salad, turkey curry with 2 veg, salmon with fries and 3 veg, a proper roast dinner with veg, beef fajitas with 2 veg, grilled chicken with veg and salad. Admittedly they don’t have the same budget constraints, but if the state system was funded properly (or waste cut down) there is no reason why they couldn’t prepare healthy food. It’s prepared in house, and there is no choice. There is 1 item on the menu (there is veggie option and I think there’s jacket option a couple of days a week), so everyone eats the same. That cuts down on waste. It was the same at primary. They see their friends eating it, so they eat it. There’s a proper dessert each day, and soup. There’s no packed lunch option. Water to drink.

I'm assuming packed lunches would be allowed for medical reasons?

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 12:02

Jiggerypokesy · Yesterday 11:58

It’s so disappointing this is your take from this. It’s all about healthy eating and your issue is about fried eggs. Why not praise them for the fact they’re trying to address a really serious issue of young people’s heath, obesity is a serious and growing issue and bowel cancer is increasing for younger and younger people.

That’s way, way more of an issue than fried eggs at school, but as usual people who like to moan are focussing on irrelevances.

The point here is that a fried egg isn’t unhealthy so why is it disappointing. I suspect it’s more about the oil that foods are being fried in rather than the foods themselves because the school meals budget won’t allow for anything other than cheap quality.

ObelixtheGaul · Yesterday 12:03

Another76543 · Yesterday 10:42

Yes, because diets and exercise levels have changed since then. Skinny kids in the 70s haven’t suddenly become obese because they had a bit of sponge and custard as a child. We are moving less, eating more, and increasingly relying on UPF. The problem with obesity is now across all age groups.

I do agree, but we do tend to think that UPF is a recent thing when it really isn't.
The 70s and 80s were full of UPF, mostly a hangover from the war. Proper dairy ice-cream was virtually non-existent. Dream topping, Angel delight, etc, all mass produced cheap chemical crap.
Ever since this industrial revolution, cheap food, particularly sweet stuff has had rubbish in it. It's actually far more regulated now than it was, particularly E-numbers.

Go back even earlier and unscrupulous Victorians were bleaching flour to make it whiter and putting sawdust in it to bulk it out.
I dread to think what they put in the substitute stuff my parents ate during rationing. What does it take to make powdered eggs?

In our house, we had powdered soup, custard powder, gravy granules. All highly processed.
The difference was that we ALSO had vegetables with tea every night with the exception of fish and chips Friday, always cooked from fresh, even though my mother worked full time, because despite the popular MN myth, plenty of families had both parents working. All right, she tended to boil the veg to death, but at least we had it. We might have burgers but always alongside green veg and potatoes.

It didn't matter that we ate a couple of shop bought biscuits (which have been around for about two centuries) in the evening, or had green's cheesecake mix for dessert on a Sunday, because most of our main meal food was veg, meat and potatoes. Cheap cuts, granted, but not covered in breadcrumbs and sugary marinades.

My mum was what was called a 'plain cook'. Meat and three veg. Veg was cheaper then. Ready meals were expensive things. Packet cakes were expensive things. Treats.

The good stuff has got more expensive and the crap has got cheaper. We have way more sedentary kids as well.

Another76543 · Yesterday 12:08

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 12:02

I'm assuming packed lunches would be allowed for medical reasons?

I don’t know of anyone having packed lunch for any reason. Dietary requirements/allergies are obviously catered for. At the schools we’ve been at, lunch is included in the fees (it’s not listed separately).

mochimoons · Yesterday 12:14

CandidStork · Yesterday 07:06

I don’t think this goes far enough personally. Eating habits in the UK need a total overhaul. No need for chips, cakes, cereals or fried food at all. Plenty of notes we could and should take from European, especially Scandinavian neighbours. Boiled or scrambled eggs, fish, chia puddings, overnight oats, soups, vegetables, cottage cheese, hummus, rye bread, Greek yoghurt with fruit, frozen yoghurt or frozen bananas as desserts etc. Whole foods rather than processed, fried, sugary rubbish. In homes as well as schools ideally, but schools, where they are at the habit forming age, and so influenced by what the children around them consume is so crucial, I think.

I agree, I've seen with a lot of kids of people I know that they are feeding them small portions of basically whatever they eat (which includes loads of fruit and veg) and then they go to school and don't want anything but chicken nuggets or sausages. If they get used to eating junk at school then they will expect it at home.

What is the point of frying an egg when you can boil or poach it just as easily and not use oil. It's obviously better not to feed children extra (probably shit quality) oil. Why's it even up for debate 😂

Brightonkebab · Yesterday 12:15

Wetblanket78 · 13/09/2026 23:30

Nothing wrong with poaching eggs instead. I prefer poached to fried.

They’re not going to poach eggs in schools 😂

Jiggerypokesy · Yesterday 12:16

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 12:02

The point here is that a fried egg isn’t unhealthy so why is it disappointing. I suspect it’s more about the oil that foods are being fried in rather than the foods themselves because the school meals budget won’t allow for anything other than cheap quality.

Try reading my post again.

It’s what the OP is focusing on that’s disappointing. And the usual whijgefest when any attempt is made to make food healthier. Meanwhile we have more burger bars, chicken shops and cake places than you can shake a stick at and that’s apparently just fine.

PuzzledObserver · Yesterday 12:25

Ah, but what is a decent oil?

It’s a controversial topic.

On the odd occasion that I fry an egg, I use lard. But I mostly prefer them scrambled or as omelettes.

chaosmaker · Yesterday 12:27

Theunamedcat · Yesterday 09:24

When I was at school we were taught how to cook basic nutritional meals from scratch my children have not been taught this by the school they were supposed to make vegetable soup first ingredient tin of vegetable soup sliced bread for croutons basically they taught secondary school children how to open a tin of soup heat it up and make a few croutons then they had to bring it home in a tub

This is not helpful

Sounds like 'recipes' from US sites. There are a lot of opening different tins/packets and mixing them together.

HelpfulHelena · Yesterday 12:30

The problem is dd’s school does offer two worthy alternatives per day. It is presenting unhealthy quick convenience upf crap alongside sensible food and then expecting TEENAGERS of all people to make the right choice.

What is the point fixing food in primary schools if secondary schools are allowed to sell this total crap?

I could of course ban my dd from buying it but ALL her friends eat it. So there is a lot of peer pressure. And additionally she has spent many years battling arfid so it is really hard for her to look at badly mass produced slop and think “i’ll eat that” whereas the upf crap is consistent - it’s a known quantity.

Brightcrow · Yesterday 12:32

Blarn · Yesterday 10:21

It was about 40 years ago that Margaret Thatcher's government changed school meals and allowed contacts to be bidded for by private companies, who fought to provide the lowest cost meals to increase their own profits. The nutritional requirements were scrapped as well. To get back to the standards of the 70s would cost a lot of money - absolutley money well spent but where will it come from?

The brilliance (not) of many of Thatcher’s policies are really obvious today 😢

RB68 · Yesterday 12:35

I have mixed feelings about this. As a kid we by rota had the same meal every two weeks (so a two week rota) we had protein, veg and carb on the plate - no pasta in those days to be honest but pasta is fine. It was always a hot meal unless summer and they replace one of the meals with a salad. They also need to look at nutrition as a whole rather than per meal - so maybe over the week. All pasta, bread and rice should be part wholemeal - some of the younger kids say reception should maybe be on white due to digestability for age. There should be crudites for all meals and fruit always available. There are plenty of options for dessert without saying "but must contain fruit" how about chocolate corgette cake and custard. I think they limit a decent cook by being so prescriptive.

Maddy70 · Yesterday 12:36

Everything is fine in moderation but if they're having fried eggs every day there are better alternatives. Poached , scrambled etc

Orangeyoucan · Yesterday 12:46

I think the Governments inaction over other issues is causing greater risk of harm to children than a fried egg to be honest 🤷‍♀️