AIBU to be shocked that the UK is still conducting tests (including for the cosmetic industry) on animals including dogs?

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Today I learned that the UK still conducts scientific tests on dogs, including beagles and that one site in Cambridgeshire breeds 2000 Beagle puppies for research purposes every year.
Not only that but the security of the site includes police protection, which, as tax payers, we are all paying for.
Call me naive but I really thought this practice ended years ago. Surely, in 2026, we do not need to test cosmetics on animals, including dogs.

I’m pretty sure, but could be wrong, that animal testing for cosmetics is not allowed in the UK.

They could get those mice with lasers on their heads to deal with security. Might save a bit of taxpayers money.

You’re right it is banned in the UK.

As per my comment above animal testing of cosmetics is banned in the UK. The only way to ensure products of any kind are cruelty free is to look for the bunny logo.
For example Olay is owned by Proctor & Gamble who are not certified cruelty free.
L’Oreal is not certified either.

It wont be cosmetics. If there is any animal testing it tends to be rodents and for medications/drugs I believe.

Wheres your link OP?

Since 1998 in fact, and Starmer was pushing to ban it everywhere.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/animal-testing-to-be-phased-out-faster-as-uk-unveils-roadmap-for-alternative-methods

I know, I only use cruelty free products of my kind.

Yeah but why let facts get in the way of a click-baity post eh?

There’s lots of really important medical research that uses animal testing still. If you get dementia / MS / cancer are you going to take the medication still? Of course you are.

I live close to one of the Charles River labs, I think a lot of people would be surprised to know they are using Beagles and Macaques.

MBR Acres and Camp Beagle?

Absolutely not saying it’s right but it’s breeding for scientific, medical and biomedical research. These days you only tend to see the police there when they’re moving puppies from the site as interest has sadly waned and there just seems to be a hardcore group who God bless them are there camped out in all weathers.

I give them their due they’re really committed to helping those beagles and I can’t help but admire their commitment to their beliefs.

*edited for spelling.

Don’t fall for vegan propaganda. They are usually wrong

It's not a click bait post.
I was just shocked with what I saw on a Facebook post which referenced a lab called MBR Acres?
If it isn't true then I am genuinely happy.
If it is true then I'm shocked as I also thought animal testing, on dogs, ended years ago.

I suppose if any of us are lucky enough not to have any health needs at all and need any medication, then we can have a stance about this.

Personally, I am on around 7 regular prescription drugs and also need ad hoc medication as needed.

True, but it raises two questions. Firstly, are other options available? If they are, we should use those. Secondly, if no other options are available, is this fact publicised on the medication, and are the animals concerned treated in the most humane way possible (if such a thing is even possible) under the circumstances?

We have to face the fact that some things push medical science forwar quickly whether we find it ethical or not. One only has to look at what happened during the war to see that. Totally unacceptable but pushed knowledge forward too. It is awful really.

I was wrong!

Not sure what my stance on this is.

I was a bit shocked when a neuroscientist I met described how her research entailed viewing live mouse brains via a plastic slide inserted into the back of their head. I am guessing that the mouse isn’t patched up for a long and happy retirement afterwards…

But I am happy to take/use modern medicine to its fullest extent, especially for my family.

Wasn’t HRT originally developed from horse urine?

Nor am I convinced that it is any more shocking to use dogs than rats, mice or monkeys.

Well the vast majority of us used the covid vaccine, mainly because we were somewhat forced into it and that will have been tested like that Im assuming

Beagles are routinely tested on, as well as cats and other animals.

Oh dear. Don't let reality spoil your rose-tinted glasses where vegans are the problem rather than the cruelty they uncover.

I voted YABU because I can't believe an adult is so naive to think that animal testing doesn't happen! Judging by your username, you should also read up on the dairy industry.

What the OP says is true. I help campaign companies to stop supplying to the site. It works. Please see below.

https://savethedogs.uk/

@Tuggb that isnt what @likelysuspect is saying!!!

I could have missed it, but that site doesn’t mention testing for cosmetics does it?