Irish Passports?

[tyrsta]

How many of you hold one? And have any of you visited Ireland?

I do. Yes.

Do You live in ROI? Are you naturally Irish? ☘️

I'm British but live in Ireland, married to Irish DH. I can get citizenship through marriage but haven't done it yet, despite being here since 1999. I suppose I should just get on with it really, and apply. It's on my 'to do' list, I only have to prove three years residency, but it's expensive. The most important thing to me is that my DC are automatically citizens through their dad, though they were born in England. They have Irish passports.

I've got one as well as a UK one.

My dad was born there. My mum was born in London but both her parents were born there.

Yes I've been there lots of times. I went there every year as a child to visit both sides of the family. My parents are long dead now but I still go regularly. The last time was July 26.

Why do you want to know?

Yes I’m half Irish and have one. I visit Ireland regularly as I have lots of family there. What’s the AIBU exactly?

I was born in ROI. I only have an Irish Passport. I don't live there now though.

Op is this because you want to know how to go about getting one or is it you want to get angry about it? I’m Irish and worked with an English girl who had lived here for twenty years and had an Irish passport as her mum was Irish and the amount of times over brexit she got asked intrusive questions about being here, her mum, her passport was terrible. There’s plenty of Irish people going about their lives around the world and I’m sure they don’t get the shit the Irish give!!

Don't unintentionally mislead people, though. If you were born in England to Irish parent you have to be on the register of foreign births to get an Irish passport. It's not automatic.

It is automatic if your Irish parent was born on the island of Ireland. You’re a citizen from birth, irrespective of where you are born.

Think this might be OP putting a toe in the water first, to see whether she dare actually voice her own opinion.

We are a mixed British Irish marriage living in Ireland for 20 years with children born in UK and Ireland and the Irish parent born in UK but Irish citizenship through their parents born in Ireland. We have two children who got their Irish passport through foreign birth registration where their Irish parent was not registered as a foreign birth so had to go through grandparents Irish birth (and prove their mother was legitimate).
So we are pretty familiar with it all, if you have specific questions.

Sounds as though you object to citizenship acquired through naturalisation. (From far back would you permit citizenship to be acquired via ancestry, since you specify ‘naturally Irish’?)

What does “naturally Irish” mean? I was born in NI. I hold both a British and Irish passport now.

Am I “naturally irish” - seeing as I was technically only British at birth.

I am eligible by descent and have lived in the North and the South but still haven’t sorted my paperwork for a passport. DH is the same. My cousin who has never been has sorted hers though.

I have, and yeah, I live here (there).
Born in London; parents immigrated around 1950. Quit GB on my own in the late ‘80s.
I’m in no doubt as to my right to regard myself as Irish, by any metric, but I still regard England as my ‘parallel’ home, though I rarely visit. More a case of my keeping an eye on the old sod.
I reckon I’m fortunate to have that additional turf.

Yes, but the point I was trying to make (not very well, I accept) was it depends how your parents got Irish citizenship. If they were born in England and got it automatically through their parents being born in Ireland, they have to be on the register for their English born children to get citizenship. They will get it automatically with Irish born parents but their non Irish born children will not unless their parents were on the register. And you have to be on the register before your children are born. You can't do it retrospectively.

So a long winded way or saying that you do have an automatic right to Irish citizenship if your parents were born on the Island of Ireland but if you were not born on the Island, you need to register as a foreign birth.

Both DH’s parents were Irish born and migrated to England while they were young for work.( His father fought for Britain during WWII. In fact his father was born in 1912, before Ireland’s independence from Britain. )
DH was brought up in an Irish community in London, went to Catholic schools, all his friends were part of that community. He used to spend all his summer holidays from school with family in Ireland.
He has always considered himself Irish and has an Irish passport rather than a British one. I supposed London Irish best describes him.

Our DS is also very proud of his Irish ancestry. But he has lived and worked in different EU countries, so his Irish passport is essential for him to be able to do that easily. I would say he considers himself European these days.

Oh, not at all, at all! You were indeed born Irish, through ‘jus solis’, since the GFA.
It’s just that for now, you have to actually assert it officially, as opposed to your not needing to actually claim a British identity.
(This has an impact on any children born to you abroad: you must be officially an Irish citizen in order to pass that to them directly.)
You know all this of course. I’m just blathering