Defend our women and girls - on our terms only!

[absolutelynottoday]

There's this ridiculous group of men in Liverpool who have self-appointed themselves as "Christian" defenders of women and girls. I absolutely refuse to name them as I won't give these cretins the airtime. They go around wearing black clothing and have a social media page where their faces are all blurred out. They won't answer the numerous questions about whether they are DBS checked and what their credentials are.

It's blatantly obvious that this group of Grade A weapons is a far right organisation and as you would expect (straight from the Tommy ten names handbook) they have a grifting page set up: "Any money raised helps us cover the costs of first aid supplies, welfare items, training, community outreach and the day to day running of our patrols". This is obviously bollocks; the grift money will be spent on the substances that keep them awake all night, ironically preying on vulnerable women and girls...

It's really pissed me off that this kind of thing can happen. The police will let the White Vanguard lot walk around and in the spirit of "free speech" they can scream "who the fuck is Allah" and "send the fuckers home) etc (to be fair it's a few snotty nosed teens following convicted criminals around, aimlessly waving flags - but still). Then you've got the likes of "young" Bob sitting in the middle of our city centre talking about remigration - the police are happy to stand there and protect him and his (again convicted criminal) associates. Great, free speech and all that. Except it isn't great, because these people are openly committing hate crimes within earshot of the police. It doesn't make any sense.

These grotty little bellends patrolling the streets of Liverpool at night are unvetted men, who do not show their faces online. I'm so worried that the police will see this as acceptable - when it seems that they are essentially using this cover as an excuse for seeking out brown and black men and attacking them at will.

That's basically Nazism. Why aren't more people bothered? What has happened to this country? I'm so sickened and confused by it all.

They’ve been attacking people?

Sorry, I did ask MN if I could edit my post as I wrote it in utter fury but the option wasn't there.

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when it seems that they are essentially using this cover as an excuse for seeking out brown and black men and attacking them at will.

It was badly worded - I mean that they seem to be going out with that intent and they seem to have the freedom to do what they want. If they were tooled up then I doubt they would be searched and this whole "protect ARE women" bunch could easily then go after an innocent man of colour who is near a young woman (e.g. taxi driver, doorman, delivery rider).

I'm actually thinking back to being a youth (having grown up in the 90's I was a bit feral!) and if a group of men dressed in black came up to me I'd have been terrified! I wonder what they say if the woman or girl declines their help? Just awful.

I would bet a house that at least a few of them have DV convictions.

100%. There is a massive correlation between the far right and domestic violence - but no, the terminally thick won't see or accept that! This is why I'm so incensed by it all. These cretins need to get the hell out of our city - and every other than that they have set their grubby sights on. We should get to decide who is protecting us. I'm shuddering imagining asking these fellas to leave me alone and them refusing because I'm a lone female. I can't see how I'd get out of that without screaming at them to fuck off and causing a scene! Mental how these men manage to enter spaces they are NOT invited into. FFS.

They are also likely all racist little shits. They will, some if not all, have domestic abuse history/ charges themselves, also will have very few teeth and are all as thick as mince. They probably don’t see their own children or pay for them.

Theres a similar set up in grantham, but they do post their faces, I uses to live there, I can see their leader is a man with criminal convictions against women and for possessing illegal weapons, in his case home made tasers. He also has convictions due to growing cannabis, as you can imagine he was a delight at school, thankfully he was eventually sent to a PRU so we didn’t have to put up with him.

Delightful aren't they! I'm baffled by the amount of people supporting the actions of these little creeps. I know I don't need to look at it, before I'm told that. I know.

It's just wound me up that these little creatures aren't being legged out of the city as soon as they start this nonsense. I think we know who to blame for it but I just didn't think it would be so bad in a city like ours. Just ranting really - not much to be done about it.

There was apparently a stall on the high st at the weekend in Liverpool (man at a desk, others with recording equipment) with "we need to deport millions - change my mind" on it.

You can feel free to change your own mind, mate.

yeah that sounds like "young bob" AKA Gregory Moffitt. He's an absolute whopper. He's the lad who got roughed up in Manchester after he (allegedly) attacked a female at a similar event. The police have a duty to safeguard him - but apparently don't have a duty to safeguard the public when there are multiple hate crimes committed via the stuff he is spouting. Anyway, I'm not willing to get riled up by that rat faced oddball. It all amounts to the same thing and I'm sick of it.

We have the same thing in crowborough in response to the camp that’s opened there.

And the “pink ladies” - 🙄

OH LAWD yeah seen them marching around aimlessly 🙄

Found one of them - please excuse the awful edit, I've trying to get ready for work. He has been gaslighting me for the last 2 hours, stupid prick

That Bob is a pain

I think the wearing black is just mad they look like…troublemakers….

I guess it depends on what they are doing. If simply walking up and down the streets I don’t care. If they are harassing people it’s an issue.

I also would wonder how many have DV allegations / convictions against themselves as that seems to be common.

And yes I find the “remigration” talk reminiscent of the BNP and NF largely because it’s clear by “remigrate” they also mean non-white Britons. But I also think if it’s merely talking they should be left alone and people can challenge them as they wish.

Seems to be a trend among the “Protect Women” crowd.

I don't really understand. Are you saying that you are setting up an alternative, dbs checked, group to "defend our women and girls"?

It's always annoying to see bad/missing teeth held up as some kind of moral failing, or a marker that someone is a worthless person.
Dental care is not affordable for everyone.

Are you defending “our women and girls” Op?

Certain men like violence and will seek it out anywhere. The cause is irrelevant.

Remember the mass football fan fights in the early 80s? I can never forget the Millwall thugs and it's been decades.