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To despair...

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ShouldIStaySelfIsolated · 20/07/2026 10:11

About the lack of comprehension/attention skills evident on this site, and what it might imply about wider society?

The amount of times this weekend I've seen people replying with a response to an opening post, despite it being 5 pages long, with several updates from the OP... its mind boggling.

See also, people not reading the OP, e.g. "my kids (ds4 and dd5)..."
"How old are your kids OP?"

Considering this is a site for adults (supposedly well educated, so the stereotype goes), it actually baffles me

OP posts:
NoCommentingFromNowOn · 20/07/2026 13:04

I’ve not read the full thread because I’m too busy and important, sorry OP but anyway back to me me me me it’s all about meeee and my important comments.

(Bloody love reddit though)

Ump · 20/07/2026 13:09

There seems to be an increase in posts where OP has written a first post about (for example) her husband kicking their dog, and the reply will be something like "Wait, your husband kicked your dog?" Nothing else, just that.

Yes, yes he did that's the entire point of the post.

Or, recently, "Where did this happen?" It's in the bloody OP.

Whilst some OPs do need further clarification, I think some people would like someone to come round, hold their hand, read posts aloud to them (slowly!) and maybe act out the situation with puppets to make it clearer.

Cora0 · 20/07/2026 13:12

ShouldIStaySelfIsolated · 20/07/2026 11:33

I know, but MN has a reputation for being a bit too skewed toward MC, well educated members... that doesn't seem to be reflected in posts

That’s very outdated and I don’t know why people keep saying it. I’ve been here for years now and it has never been that way. It heavily leans towards lower income, which is actually true of most Internet forums statistically speaking.

It’s similar to how people bang on about “skinny people” posting when in reality every other thread is about WLI and bragging about the portions they eat. 😂

Notsodisney · 20/07/2026 13:18

My fave example was thread about bats.

"We live in the US and had x situation with bat and potential bite...." (note bat was killed and OP mentioned CDC or similar iirc)
"OP that's criminal offence, bats are protected in UK! You are horrible person and deserve to be reported"

Op said numerous times she wasn't in UK but that did not matter to many🙈

BoredZelda · 20/07/2026 13:22

dudsville · 20/07/2026 12:16

My take from your post is that this deeply interests you on an anthropological level. If that's true, then the academic answer from research studies is what you seek. If instead by "baffled" you mean that you dislike it, that's altogether something different.

Indeed. Isn’t baffled just code speak for “I’m judging them and I think I am better than them?

KaleidoscopeSmile · 20/07/2026 13:30

BoredZelda · 20/07/2026 13:22

Indeed. Isn’t baffled just code speak for “I’m judging them and I think I am better than them?

Bingo.

She DOES now say that she's "genuinely interested" though, so she's hopefully over the original despair

mondaytosunday · 20/07/2026 13:33

if a thread is pages long I tend to avoid it as I’m sure someone on it has already made the point I would. But if it’s something that particularly interests me I at the very least read all the OP’s post, and read the last few to see if it’s been totally derailed already (as it’s beginning to here with the middle class business).
I also write out responses and then don’t post as I think I’m not really adding something and boring even myself!

Delphiniumandlupins · 20/07/2026 13:57

Maybe the site needs an update that makes it impossible to post a reply until you have read all the OP's posts?

HoskinsChoice · 20/07/2026 14:04

@ShouldIStaySelfIsolated Where did you get the 'well-educated' stereotype from? The level of intelligence on this site is waaaaay below average. I don't think anyone actually believes it's full of degree educated 'high earners' do they?

2107emc · 21/07/2026 20:48

HoskinsChoice · 20/07/2026 14:04

@ShouldIStaySelfIsolated Where did you get the 'well-educated' stereotype from? The level of intelligence on this site is waaaaay below average. I don't think anyone actually believes it's full of degree educated 'high earners' do they?

And you're basing your assertion that people here have below-average intelligence on... what, exactly?

Whenever there's a savings/mortgage/earnings question there's always a very broad spectrum but there are quite a large representation of high earners, although that's not necessarily a proxy for intelligence.

HoskinsChoice · 22/07/2026 23:16

2107emc · 21/07/2026 20:48

And you're basing your assertion that people here have below-average intelligence on... what, exactly?

Whenever there's a savings/mortgage/earnings question there's always a very broad spectrum but there are quite a large representation of high earners, although that's not necessarily a proxy for intelligence.

Surely you realise the majority of the so-called 'high earners' are not real?

AdjectiveColourNoun · 22/07/2026 23:39

HoskinsChoice · 22/07/2026 23:16

Surely you realise the majority of the so-called 'high earners' are not real?

People like to claim that, maybe to feel better about themselves. But there are plenty of high earners around. I don’t think these posts are obviously fictitious.

Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 22/07/2026 23:55

You aren't being unreasonable op. It's really sad how many people on here can't read or gather information properly. See it all the time, people will post about a headline or article as gospel rather than click bait/story fillers with no substance. I put it down to poor education and parental guidance for whatever reason.

ShouldIStaySelfIsolated · 23/07/2026 14:50

I do despair about it, not in a judgy way, bit more a "this thread is 20 pages long of the same 3 responses because no-one has bothered to read past the OP"

And I do think its genuinely interesting as to why this is. I dont remember it being as bad as this when I joined Mumsnet about 9 years ago, so I was wondering what had changed.

As for the snarky comments about the MC/educated skew of mumsnet, ive seen that assertion on several posts this week, and if you ask Google about it, this is what it comes up with, so it's not be being judgy or whatever, its a pretty commonly held view... whether it's a true and honest reflection of the membership is another matter

To despair...
OP posts:
Backedoffhackedoff · 23/07/2026 14:53

ShouldIStaySelfIsolated · 20/07/2026 10:11

About the lack of comprehension/attention skills evident on this site, and what it might imply about wider society?

The amount of times this weekend I've seen people replying with a response to an opening post, despite it being 5 pages long, with several updates from the OP... its mind boggling.

See also, people not reading the OP, e.g. "my kids (ds4 and dd5)..."
"How old are your kids OP?"

Considering this is a site for adults (supposedly well educated, so the stereotype goes), it actually baffles me

dispair? Baffled?

you’re being OTT Op. it’s a chat forum. It’s informal communication and people don’t take the time or effort to care either about their own quick typos or assumptions, or anyone else’s view of them.

People are here for themselves, not for you

Backedoffhackedoff · 23/07/2026 14:56

HoskinsChoice · 20/07/2026 14:04

@ShouldIStaySelfIsolated Where did you get the 'well-educated' stereotype from? The level of intelligence on this site is waaaaay below average. I don't think anyone actually believes it's full of degree educated 'high earners' do they?

IME Chat forums used to be quite focused on providing high quality evidence to back up your views (most of these forums no longer exist tbf) and MN was always known as a bit of a thickies alternative focused on the “well if I am what are you” school of debate

Corianda · 24/07/2026 08:30

When I first joined mn you’d get someone posting about very difficult issue in their life and would wait a day or two for them to get back to the couple of often helpful replies people had posted.
Everyone didn’t carry phones around all the time, everyone didn’t go online all the time. Threads never got to the 20 pages level.
Now everyone wants to have input and everyone is online a lot. Not much you can do about yhat

ShouldIStaySelfIsolated · Yesterday 08:41

Corianda · 24/07/2026 08:30

When I first joined mn you’d get someone posting about very difficult issue in their life and would wait a day or two for them to get back to the couple of often helpful replies people had posted.
Everyone didn’t carry phones around all the time, everyone didn’t go online all the time. Threads never got to the 20 pages level.
Now everyone wants to have input and everyone is online a lot. Not much you can do about yhat

That's really interesting... I hadn't thought about it like that.
I've been searching for posts on here for advice about some issues and quite often the older ones run to 2 pages max. I hadnt really considered why, but yes, being chronically online/available ro notifications is doing us no favours

OP posts:
Sherararara · Yesterday 08:44

ShouldIStaySelfIsolated · 20/07/2026 10:37

Is it laziness, lack of ability, problem with the site layout?

Or just a general reflection of how we are as a society... wanting to have our say without really listening?

Or it’s none of these and simply unreasonable to expect someone to read 14 pages of replies.

NoCommentingFromNowOn · Yesterday 09:17

Sherararara · Yesterday 08:44

Or it’s none of these and simply unreasonable to expect someone to read 14 pages of replies.

It is people’s own choice to have 14 pages.

There has always been the ability to change the number of replies you see on one page.

There has also always been the ability to see all the replies from OP, bypassing replies from anyone else.

To come on a thread where (to take one specific recent example) OP had a situation 10 days ago, was advised it was a police matter so she called the police 8 days ago and said so on the thread, and then some bone idle Mumsnetter comes on the thread which is now hundreds of posts long, and declare ‘Police. Now’ as if they are the only one who has given sensible advice is just stupidity.

If you can’t be bothered to read at least the replies from OP, then what makes these people think anyone wants to read their mumblings?

Sherararara · Yesterday 10:42

NoCommentingFromNowOn · Yesterday 09:17

It is people’s own choice to have 14 pages.

There has always been the ability to change the number of replies you see on one page.

There has also always been the ability to see all the replies from OP, bypassing replies from anyone else.

To come on a thread where (to take one specific recent example) OP had a situation 10 days ago, was advised it was a police matter so she called the police 8 days ago and said so on the thread, and then some bone idle Mumsnetter comes on the thread which is now hundreds of posts long, and declare ‘Police. Now’ as if they are the only one who has given sensible advice is just stupidity.

If you can’t be bothered to read at least the replies from OP, then what makes these people think anyone wants to read their mumblings?

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SorrellNightwind · Yesterday 10:54

But you're not new in this thought. People have been saying it for ages.

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