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AIBU to think my colleague's anti England comment was rude?

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ProudBlackMomma · 18/07/2026 21:52

What would you make of this? A colleague declared in front of the whole team in the office the other day that she’d never ever support England in any sport due to their history colonialism. Personally I think it’s rude and fails to read the room. Most people had been enjoying cheering on England in the World Cup so to hear this felt a bit like raining on the parade. This woman is African but living in England and reaping all the benefits that come with that. I’m Black too but proud to say I’m English and happy to cheer on the players, who include plenty of black men who I assume also cheer on England!!

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lap90 · 19/07/2026 12:33

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Differentforgirls · 19/07/2026 12:52

roseymoira · 19/07/2026 11:12

It’s crazy that she’s able to say such anti English rhetoric in a professional setting. If people were spouting anti African nonsense I imagine she’d be straight to HR

What is anti English about not supporting a football team?

countrylife00 · 19/07/2026 12:59

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Glasgow?

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 19/07/2026 13:01

It's pretty pathetic. Most countries have colonised somewhere in their history but the grown ups have moved on from it

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countrylife00 · 19/07/2026 13:04

Differentforgirls · 19/07/2026 13:00

Glasgow?

Yes because I have seen your messages on every football post and anything about England.
You are literally spending every minute working out how you can put England down.
That other lady had you rattled.
i agree with everything she said.

countrylife00 · 19/07/2026 13:05

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CurlewKate · 19/07/2026 13:06

ProudBlackMomma · 19/07/2026 12:32

Because I thought it was rude? Because she certainly doesn’t speak for all Black people? Because I found it embarrassing? Because I think that you should have respect for where you live? All of the above.

Yeah, right.

countrylife00 · 19/07/2026 13:07

Sometimeswinning · 19/07/2026 11:28

Has the op said she’s Black African? If they did then guessing Nigeria would probably be a fair assumption.

Having lived in Nigeria and been asked hundreds of times a day to help them get a visa to go to England, I can 100% say this comment would be made by a Nigerian.

Differentforgirls · 19/07/2026 13:09

countrylife00 · 19/07/2026 13:04

Yes because I have seen your messages on every football post and anything about England.
You are literally spending every minute working out how you can put England down.
That other lady had you rattled.
i agree with everything she said.

Oh it's you on a different account. Unless there are two ex nursing sisters who worked in Aberdeen and no one liked. So you agree with yourself on another account. 😂

MixedBouquets · 19/07/2026 13:09

ProudBlackMomma · 19/07/2026 12:32

Because I thought it was rude? Because she certainly doesn’t speak for all Black people? Because I found it embarrassing? Because I think that you should have respect for where you live? All of the above.

Bluntly, you sound like a loon. I’ve lived in five countries on three continents for long or longish periods. I am not speaking for anyone other than myself, I have never felt the need not to criticise where I was currently living, or to pretend to have amnesia about the impact of that country’s imperial past on other parts of the world. Have you lived in many places outside your home country?

countrylife00 · 19/07/2026 13:10

Differentforgirls · 19/07/2026 12:52

What is anti English about not supporting a football team?

Send her up to Scotland to say the same things about Scotland and their diabolical effort at football.
I guess she would get a standing ovation would she?

Differentforgirls · 19/07/2026 13:11

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Just so you know on BOTH your accounts. I don't live in Glasgow.

MandemChickenShop · 19/07/2026 13:12

she's from Africa, why would she support England?

CoffeeCantata · 19/07/2026 13:50

MandemChickenShop · 19/07/2026 13:12

she's from Africa, why would she support England?

She can support who she likes.

But that’s extremely rude to make a point of her antipathy to the English team while in England and amongst English people. I wouldn’t be so rude if I were say in France!

And how ignorant! Doesn’t she know that the French, Germans, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese and others all had empires, and that Africans helped some of these powers to obtain their slaves?

why is she living in a country she despises? I’d love to put these points to her, the silly cow.

MasterBeth · 19/07/2026 13:58

countrylife00 · 19/07/2026 13:07

Having lived in Nigeria and been asked hundreds of times a day to help them get a visa to go to England, I can 100% say this comment would be made by a Nigerian.

You have no idea at all if this woman was Nigerian. You are simply projecting your own prejudices.

MasterBeth · 19/07/2026 14:00

CoffeeCantata · 19/07/2026 13:50

She can support who she likes.

But that’s extremely rude to make a point of her antipathy to the English team while in England and amongst English people. I wouldn’t be so rude if I were say in France!

And how ignorant! Doesn’t she know that the French, Germans, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese and others all had empires, and that Africans helped some of these powers to obtain their slaves?

why is she living in a country she despises? I’d love to put these points to her, the silly cow.

What a strange argument.

Has this woman said she's cheering on the French, Germans, Dutch Spanish, or Portuguese?

ParsleySageToiletDuckAndBinBags · 19/07/2026 14:02

CurlewKate · 19/07/2026 08:33

In what way-“getting what you want”?

Taking the upper hand, claiming moral superiority; in some cases, seeking special privileges because you 'don't feel safe', even if it's members of your own demographic who are the ones who are harassing and threatening others.

To be clear, I'm not referring to race or nationality in the above.

MasterBeth · 19/07/2026 14:06

ParsleySageToiletDuckAndBinBags · 19/07/2026 14:02

Taking the upper hand, claiming moral superiority; in some cases, seeking special privileges because you 'don't feel safe', even if it's members of your own demographic who are the ones who are harassing and threatening others.

To be clear, I'm not referring to race or nationality in the above.

Good grief, you lot are such snowflakes!

"Seeking special priviliges"? The woman was choosing not to support a football team!

MixedBouquets · 19/07/2026 14:09

Hands up those on the thread who have spent any considerable period living outside their own country of origin. Because some of you are being deeply strange, especially on a site where the 'This country is awful and I would emigrate except I have no skills or languages that will make me valuable elsewhere' post is almost a tradition.

Also, seriously? It's a bunch of guys kicking a ball around, and doing it rather well. I get that English people are disappointed they didn't win, but the team did very well by any standards. I don't think you're in need of special kid glove treatment because of it.

aliceyyyy2654 · 19/07/2026 14:21

MixedBouquets · 19/07/2026 14:09

Hands up those on the thread who have spent any considerable period living outside their own country of origin. Because some of you are being deeply strange, especially on a site where the 'This country is awful and I would emigrate except I have no skills or languages that will make me valuable elsewhere' post is almost a tradition.

Also, seriously? It's a bunch of guys kicking a ball around, and doing it rather well. I get that English people are disappointed they didn't win, but the team did very well by any standards. I don't think you're in need of special kid glove treatment because of it.

It is very strange indeed, my partner adores football and watches matches from all over the world even very small teams in other continents, including Africa. He would never ever be offended by someone choosing not to support England despite living here.
i don’t think these feelings people have are to do with pride of football but about their racism

Differentforgirls · 19/07/2026 14:23

LuckyHazelFox · 19/07/2026 08:46

Yep. I mentioned this on the MN site stuff thread. Everything is always in the name.

Brand new poster as far I can see.

CoffeeCantata · 19/07/2026 14:23

MasterBeth · 19/07/2026 14:06

Good grief, you lot are such snowflakes!

"Seeking special priviliges"? The woman was choosing not to support a football team!

Edited

No - you’re missing the main point. She’s free to support who she likes. It was the gratuitous rudeness and ignorance that was the issue.

ParsleySageToiletDuckAndBinBags · 19/07/2026 14:24

MasterBeth · 19/07/2026 14:06

Good grief, you lot are such snowflakes!

"Seeking special priviliges"? The woman was choosing not to support a football team!

Edited

I made it very clear that I was talking about wider claimed victimhood, not connected with race or nationality.

The woman herself in the OP was making it about far more than football. Like with the 'Anyone but England' that certain tiresome Scots haver on about, the football is just used as an excuse for pettiness and hatred.

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