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“No description is the description”

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Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 10:03

I am SO sick of reading about violent crime; assault, abuse, attacks, rapes, and the threads are full of
“no description is the new description”
”doctor or engineer”
”import the 3rd world”
blah, blah, blah
Noone seems to actually CARE about the women, children or victims. It’s all just racist bullshit. No one seems to acknowledge that the majority of these crimes are carried out by white, British men. (Not all, but the majority).
If the perpetrator/ suspect is described as being white, the comments are all
”for a change”
”they’ve only published a description BECAUSE they’re white”
Its relentless.
I am aware that I see so much of it, because I comment on them, but I find the attitudes so disturbing, and the media stir it even more, with their clickbait headlines.

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bhaijaan · 02/07/2026 10:04

Do you not understand per capita?

Ablondiebutagoody · 02/07/2026 10:18

But you are as bad as they are putting your spin on it. Have a day off.

Hoardasurass · 02/07/2026 10:24

We do care about the victims and most of all preventing more victims and when immigrants from certain cultures are disproportionately represented in crime statistics vs their number in the uk compared to both native British men and those from other western cultures we need to be able to talk about it and come up with reasonable ways of combating it without people calling us racist.
@Reallyneedsaholiday you do realise that its people like yourself shutting down valid concerns about the race and religion of groups of rapists working together to abuse younge white working class girls enabled the abuse to continue for decades and caused untold harm to thousands of girls across the UK. We must stop worrying about false accusations of racism and start actually acknowledging the fact that men from certain cultures are not compatible with our cultural norms and asking whether they should even be allowed in the uk due to the risk of harm that they pose to women and girls

hay5689 · 02/07/2026 10:27

The majority of people know we have enough scumbags of our own without adding more to the mix. The difference is we unfortunately cannot deport British citizens anywhere but we can deport non British citizens and at least get rid of some of them. I also agree with the comment about per capita, when you take that into account the figures are very different.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 10:36

bhaijaan · 02/07/2026 10:04

Do you not understand per capita?

Yes, why?

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bhaijaan · 02/07/2026 10:40

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 10:36

Yes, why?

Because the per capita data completely destroys your narrative

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 10:40

Oh God, here we go again.
Per capita, the number of white British offenders outweighs the number of immigrants.
White British population …. 76%
White British sex offenders …. 80-85%
White British men are more of a risk to women than other men.

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Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 10:41

bhaijaan · 02/07/2026 10:40

Because the per capita data completely destroys your narrative

No, it doesn’t.

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Hoardasurass · 02/07/2026 10:41

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 10:40

Oh God, here we go again.
Per capita, the number of white British offenders outweighs the number of immigrants.
White British population …. 76%
White British sex offenders …. 80-85%
White British men are more of a risk to women than other men.

Please link to your data source

bhaijaan · 02/07/2026 10:56

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 10:40

Oh God, here we go again.
Per capita, the number of white British offenders outweighs the number of immigrants.
White British population …. 76%
White British sex offenders …. 80-85%
White British men are more of a risk to women than other men.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/foreign-nationals-quarter-sexual-assault-convictions-rpXpd_2/

Foreign nationals accounted for a quarter of sexual assault convictions on women last year, figures reveal | LBC

A quarter of offenders convicted for sexual assaults on women in the UK last year were foreign nationals, figures have revealed.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/foreign-nationals-quarter-sexual-assault-convictions-rpXpd_2/

bhaijaan · 02/07/2026 11:03

Some of our friends in the EU/EEA directly actually measure it by ethnicity and boy oh boy the data is clear cut.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 11:33

Hoardasurass · 02/07/2026 10:41

Please link to your data source

Look it up

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Darragon · 02/07/2026 11:44

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 11:33

Look it up

Well PPs did, and got different results to you, so either provide your source or accept you are wrong. 🤷‍♀️ Have you never actually debated anything before? Or did you think only people who disagree with you should be held accountable for their data claims?

Hoardasurass · 02/07/2026 11:56

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 11:33

Look it up

If you are claiming that the article posted by @bhaijaan is where you got your statistics from you are misquoting the statistics or just making them up as it clearly states that foreign nationals are responsible for 26% of sexual assaults against over 16s (no stats for girls under 16 quoted) not the 15-20% you claimed, and the figures given for British offenders doesn't specify if they are white British or not just British and only accounted for 72.6% of these crimes.
So we have 10.9% of the uk population ie the foreign nationals committing 26% of sex assaults against women and girls over 16 and over 1/5 of all rapes.
Can you honestly not see why we need to talk about this and remove these people from our country and limit there ability to come here in the 1st place? Honestly this isn't about racism its about recognising a pattern and acting to prevent it from being repeated

damemaggiescurledupperlip · 02/07/2026 12:07

There are different ways of stealing from people: violent mugging, house-breaking, computer-based financial frauds, for example. We don’t have just one generic police division for all thefts of money and property: we have specialised divisions. Common sense. If there is a clearly-differentiated set of sexual offenders, they should be tackled as a class.

Locutus2000 · 02/07/2026 12:36

Bit of an obvious agenda OP.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 15:42

Locutus2000 · 02/07/2026 12:36

Bit of an obvious agenda OP.

Absolutely.
We ALL have an agenda.
My own is "truth", rather than racism. What's yours?

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bhaijaan · 02/07/2026 15:53

Reallyneedsaholiday · 02/07/2026 15:42

Absolutely.
We ALL have an agenda.
My own is "truth", rather than racism. What's yours?

Ignoring the data it seems

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