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AIBU to wonder how a government can be based in Manchester?

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dottiedodah · 29/06/2026 16:58

Andy Burnham is proposing to govern from Manchester when he starts on July 20th.How can this be so ? Surely all previous governments have been based in London?

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Stelladid · 30/06/2026 20:23

lovecotswoldsliving · 30/06/2026 19:36

It’s the capital. It has several airports and many major transport links. Most businesses have an interest there. The king resides there most of the time. The financial hub is there. MI5 and MI6
are there. It generates over a trillion pounds a year and all world leaders can fly directly into London. It is already set up for the government.
So is Andy going to set up his government at the end of his garden, with top armed security?
This stinks of costing a lot extra money, especially if loads of personnel have to relocate, many of whom will refuse.
Where will he entertain world leaders? Is the King going to have to keep popping up to Manchester for their weekly meetings?
Manchester is a thriving business centre, but it’s not set up for this. Would Manchester be prepared to pay for all this?
And what will Miliband have to say about the increased carbon footprint?

WTF has the Kings location got to do with it. You don’t need several airports. Manchester airport is very large and efficient. There are excellent transport routes to Manchester. It’s irrelevant how much money is generated in London. It sounds like you need to ‘get out more’ in Britain.

MasterBeth · 30/06/2026 20:24

ChipswithMayonnaise · 30/06/2026 16:45

YANBU. Let Scotland and the North become one unit or federation.

'England' is a Midlands and Home Counties phenomenon.

WTF?

twohotwaterbottles · 30/06/2026 20:34

Instructions · 29/06/2026 17:10

It would be impossible. Everyone knows governments can only function from London. Manchester doesn't have things like phone lines and internet connections and offices and transport hubs and so on, nothing ever gets done here- if people need to make a decision they have to take a train to London to do it!

😂😂😂😂

soddingspiderseason · 30/06/2026 20:42

TofuTheCat · 30/06/2026 20:21

You’d be surprised where I’ve ventured to 🙄

i couldn’t really give a shit where it is, but it does seem like it’s yet more tinkering to distract people further while Rome burns.

So you’d complain whatever he does, righto.

lovecotswoldsliving · 30/06/2026 20:54

soddingspiderseason · 30/06/2026 19:59

Absolutely. He’s going to set this department up anyway, so it can use existing office space used by government offices in Manchester. The salaries will be the same wherever its located. So what’s the additional cost of being in Manchester to London? There’s an awful lot of pearl clutching about a small modicum of power daring to be based outside the blessed capital. I do wonder if these people have ever ventured outside the M25?

Security? Relocation of staff?
First class travel/ helicopters/ chauffeurs every other day. Not just for him, but his advisors.
Hotel costs for staff who go back and to with him.
Maintaining No 10 as a second home, with full staff/ security etc. Will council tax payers in Manchester fund that, or will London tax payers fund that?

Isinglass20 · 30/06/2026 20:57

Instructions
What? Don’t have phone lines in Manchester 🤣. Not many people do these days : there is this new fangled thing called the internet and you can actually see who you’re talking to as well, it’s a video call. My my who ‘d have thunk it.

lovecotswoldsliving · 30/06/2026 21:00

Isinglass20 · 30/06/2026 20:57

Instructions
What? Don’t have phone lines in Manchester 🤣. Not many people do these days : there is this new fangled thing called the internet and you can actually see who you’re talking to as well, it’s a video call. My my who ‘d have thunk it.

You may laugh, but the internet is not that great where I live. I pay an awful lot for a good view, but with third world services.

MsGreying · 30/06/2026 21:10

Stelladid · 30/06/2026 20:23

WTF has the Kings location got to do with it. You don’t need several airports. Manchester airport is very large and efficient. There are excellent transport routes to Manchester. It’s irrelevant how much money is generated in London. It sounds like you need to ‘get out more’ in Britain.

Euston is a delightful place to wait and then get squished off your appointed train.

Thepeachboys · 30/06/2026 21:14

WarriorN · 29/06/2026 17:05

It’s actually the midlands.

So would be equally distant for everyone to get to.

Though I must say it’s easier to get from the actual north (Newcastle) to London by train than it is to the new Identifies as North (Manchester)

Manchester isn't in the Midlands, it's in the north west. Cheshire is also between the the midlands and Manchester.

5128gap · 30/06/2026 21:19

The government is a huge staff of people across many different departments. Burnham is planning to base some of these departments in Manchester. He will have work space for himself in 'the Manchester office' and will sometimes work from there. Possibly even mostly work from there.
I have no doubt he will go to London to see dignitaries, the King and to attend Parliament, and the rest of the time, it doesn't really matter where he is, does it?

DallazMajor · 30/06/2026 21:22

Manchester is the centre of the whole universe.

Proof :

MibsXX · 30/06/2026 21:22

Viviennemary · 29/06/2026 17:09

Power has gone to his head.

He hasn't actually got a lot of power just yet though...

Happyjoe · 30/06/2026 21:38

Stelladid · 30/06/2026 20:23

WTF has the Kings location got to do with it. You don’t need several airports. Manchester airport is very large and efficient. There are excellent transport routes to Manchester. It’s irrelevant how much money is generated in London. It sounds like you need to ‘get out more’ in Britain.

Most parliaments are in a country's capital city, it's the norm isn't it?

Happyjoe · 30/06/2026 21:41

lovecotswoldsliving · 30/06/2026 19:58

I don’t trust our local council, so no thanks.

100%. Mine is totally inept. I would hate them to have any more control.

TofuTheCat · 30/06/2026 21:44

soddingspiderseason · 30/06/2026 20:42

So you’d complain whatever he does, righto.

Is that you, Marie? 😂

5128gap · 30/06/2026 21:47

Shinyhappyapple · 30/06/2026 20:20

Yes! Always North V South. It’s like we don’t exist .

Too right. No ones getting on to Pickfords to shift 10 benches, a podium and a cat up the M1 to Wolverhampton anytime soon are they?

MissSookieStackhouse · 30/06/2026 21:56

Is he going to have two sets of admin staff to service two locations, or is he expecting the civil service staff who live in the London area to start working part-time from Manchester to support him? Sounds like more cost and more hassle for everyone.

lola243 · 30/06/2026 21:58

I love Manchester, lived there for a few years, went to uni in Sheffield, have spent a decent amount of time up north and my husbands family are all from Derbyshire. But my god you guys are so petty and chippy, it gets me every time. These silly sarcastic comments when all OP did was ask how it would work and rightly too, because so far it seems all Burnham wants to do is keep his court close and do as he pleases. Sorry you got bullied OP.

curliegirlie · 30/06/2026 21:59

Duvetdayneeded · 29/06/2026 17:21

The cost of moving the government for two years when Labour are voted out would be horrendous. Just shows what a - insert variety of words - Burnham is.

You do realise there are a good few government buildings in Manchester?

lovecotswoldsliving · 30/06/2026 22:08

Stelladid · 30/06/2026 20:23

WTF has the Kings location got to do with it. You don’t need several airports. Manchester airport is very large and efficient. There are excellent transport routes to Manchester. It’s irrelevant how much money is generated in London. It sounds like you need to ‘get out more’ in Britain.

Oh dear. I need to get out more?
i will tell you WTF the Kings location has to do with it, because you obviously don’t know.
Once a week, the prime minister has an audience with the monarch, which happens to be the King.
The prime minister always goes to the Monarch.
And before you go on an anti monarchy rampage, Burnham has already sworn his allegiance to the King.

cardibach · 30/06/2026 22:17

MissSookieStackhouse · 30/06/2026 21:56

Is he going to have two sets of admin staff to service two locations, or is he expecting the civil service staff who live in the London area to start working part-time from Manchester to support him? Sounds like more cost and more hassle for everyone.

Edited

Maybe read t(e proposals instead of wondering. It’s not a duplicate operation.

BreatheAndFocus · 30/06/2026 22:18

millymollymoomoo · 29/06/2026 17:00

he won’t last more than 5 minutes ( thankfully) so it’s all irrelevant really

Oh no! Really? I don’t know much about him, but I do know we seem to have had far too many PMs in too short a time recently.

cardibach · 30/06/2026 22:19

lovecotswoldsliving · 30/06/2026 22:08

Oh dear. I need to get out more?
i will tell you WTF the Kings location has to do with it, because you obviously don’t know.
Once a week, the prime minister has an audience with the monarch, which happens to be the King.
The prime minister always goes to the Monarch.
And before you go on an anti monarchy rampage, Burnham has already sworn his allegiance to the King.

Burnham isn’t relocating the PM’s office to Manchester. It’s a specific area of work that’s moving up there.
Jesus, I don’t even like hi and I hate the way he’s gone about manoeuvring himself into position and you lot are making me defend him. Read what the plan is.

MrsPapillon · 30/06/2026 22:20

lovecotswoldsliving · 30/06/2026 22:08

Oh dear. I need to get out more?
i will tell you WTF the Kings location has to do with it, because you obviously don’t know.
Once a week, the prime minister has an audience with the monarch, which happens to be the King.
The prime minister always goes to the Monarch.
And before you go on an anti monarchy rampage, Burnham has already sworn his allegiance to the King.

But how is that relevant? The King doesn’t live at Buckingham Palace. He moves between Clarence House, Sandringham, Highgrove and Balmoral. The word on the street is that he’s not a big fan of London.

soddingspiderseason · 30/06/2026 22:22

lovecotswoldsliving · 30/06/2026 22:08

Oh dear. I need to get out more?
i will tell you WTF the Kings location has to do with it, because you obviously don’t know.
Once a week, the prime minister has an audience with the monarch, which happens to be the King.
The prime minister always goes to the Monarch.
And before you go on an anti monarchy rampage, Burnham has already sworn his allegiance to the King.

And? Burnham will be in Downing Street, just like every other Prime Minister. You are aware its just one new department that will be located in Manchester, not the whole government? If not, try facts. They are your friend.