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AIBU to ask you not to turn away

36 replies

Garlandedmantle · 01/06/2026 19:07

To ask you to watch this speech and wonder how, as mothers and a society, we can ensure this unspeakable, sickening stain on our history can never happen again. To anyone’s daughters.

This is today’s enquiry in Parliament which hears the hideous testimony of children who were trafficked and abused and raped by and like dogs.

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ChickenBananaBanana · 01/06/2026 19:09

I'd add more info. Most people aren't clicking on a random link.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 01/06/2026 19:12

You need to at least say what you are talking about

LadyLooo · 01/06/2026 19:14

ChickenBananaBanana · 01/06/2026 19:09

I'd add more info. Most people aren't clicking on a random link.

I have no idea and I can't even see a link.

Garlandedmantle · 01/06/2026 19:14

Sorry, hopefully clearer. We hear testimonies from some of the tens of thousands of victims of the rape gangs.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=FFQopC4oYUc&ra=m

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Ihatetomatoes · 01/06/2026 19:34

UK grooming gangs. Covered up, ignored and the girls who wre the victims blamed because anything is better than being accused of racist apparentely.

Dreadful, disgusting, children need protecting from vile men like those.

PurpleReindeer2 · 01/06/2026 19:43

Those poor girls were seriously let down. The professionals who were inept should be charged and sacked and the rapists deserve serious justice. Sadly neither is likely to happen as effectively as it should.

WilfredsPies · 01/06/2026 19:46

I don’t think it’s mothers who need to watch it. Women are largely aware of where the danger to women and girls comes from. You need to be showing the men you know and asking them to watch it.

Garlandedmantle · 01/06/2026 20:03

WilfredsPies · 01/06/2026 19:46

I don’t think it’s mothers who need to watch it. Women are largely aware of where the danger to women and girls comes from. You need to be showing the men you know and asking them to watch it.

Interesting. And hopeful.

Many mothers I know won’t discuss it because they are more afraid of being accused of being racist than acknowledging many of our cities are dangerous for innocent children.

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SamAylward · 02/06/2026 09:37

I wouldn't believe that man Lowe if he told me the sun rose in the east in the morning.

I am deeply suspicious of every "fact" he mentions until I see it verified by a reliable source i.e. one not connected with the "Restore Britain Party" a bunch who make "Reform" look sane!

Ihatetomatoes · 02/06/2026 15:03

Garlandedmantle · 01/06/2026 20:03

Interesting. And hopeful.

Many mothers I know won’t discuss it because they are more afraid of being accused of being racist than acknowledging many of our cities are dangerous for innocent children.

This is a major problem. Even the police victim blamed. They were children
The men were predominantly from Asian backgrounds. Fact not racism.

MsGreying · 02/06/2026 16:01

SamAylward · 02/06/2026 09:37

I wouldn't believe that man Lowe if he told me the sun rose in the east in the morning.

I am deeply suspicious of every "fact" he mentions until I see it verified by a reliable source i.e. one not connected with the "Restore Britain Party" a bunch who make "Reform" look sane!

Edited

You should seek out Maggie Oliver.

Garlandedmantle · 02/06/2026 18:38

SamAylward · 02/06/2026 09:37

I wouldn't believe that man Lowe if he told me the sun rose in the east in the morning.

I am deeply suspicious of every "fact" he mentions until I see it verified by a reliable source i.e. one not connected with the "Restore Britain Party" a bunch who make "Reform" look sane!

Edited

Interesting, isn’t? Whereas I think he’s the only sane and honourable voice on the political landscape.

Then our votes will differ!

I wonder how we both have such diametric views.

That’s how I feel about Starmer. He’s despicable.

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SpidersAreShitheads · 02/06/2026 18:43

Garlandedmantle · 02/06/2026 18:38

Interesting, isn’t? Whereas I think he’s the only sane and honourable voice on the political landscape.

Then our votes will differ!

I wonder how we both have such diametric views.

That’s how I feel about Starmer. He’s despicable.

What makes you think he’s sane and honourable?

Genuine question. I can’t see it at all but I don’t want to exist in an echo chamber so I’m always interested in hearing alternative views.

DierdreDaphne · 02/06/2026 18:46

Ugh I am so bored of these carefully prepared (Aai assisted?) posts from right wing posters. Telling me I must believe something, be outraged about something, feel a certain way.

There was one telling us this morning that Henry Nowak was despised by the police specifically because he was white -with no evidence-when his own parents had appealed for people to keep race out of it. It feels so bossy, and worse, as though the site is being infiltrated deliberately by people whose main occupation is - infiltrating social media sites.

Yes that's just my opinion but there seem to be a lot of posters posing as "concerned mothers", who seem to have a lot more time to craft their posts to match right wing "talking points" than most actual mothers would have to spare.

LondonPapa · 02/06/2026 19:09

WilfredsPies · 01/06/2026 19:46

I don’t think it’s mothers who need to watch it. Women are largely aware of where the danger to women and girls comes from. You need to be showing the men you know and asking them to watch it.

Involved fathers also don’t need to watch it. I’m well aware of where the danger to my daughter comes from, I do everything I can to keep her away from the danger. I’m disgusted at how the system let down the victims of grooming gangs. But I’m not surprised. This country has gone to the dogs.

Garlandedmantle · 03/06/2026 17:05

SpidersAreShitheads · 02/06/2026 18:43

What makes you think he’s sane and honourable?

Genuine question. I can’t see it at all but I don’t want to exist in an echo chamber so I’m always interested in hearing alternative views.

Thanks for engaging!

Because he’s clearly intelligent and what the Irish call well rared. He’s articulate, informed and able to debate in a civilised way and I’ve never heard him
resort to personal invective or shit down a conversation because he didn’t like the answer.

He donates his Mp’s salary to things like removing graffiti and rolls up his sleeves to clean litter.

His policies are revolutionary and the BBC the establishment are desperate to silence him, that’s enough for me!

What do you know or think of him?

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Stick0rTwist · 03/06/2026 17:13

I grew up near Telford and know personally one girl found in a hotel room naked with 4 Asian men at the age of 14, and another classmate raped in a park at the age of 13. This is 20 years ago.

More recently I’ve lived next door to a care home - guess what, barely teenage aged girls being collected by a car full of Asian men.

I believe every word Rupert has said in that speech.

Nothing has upset me more than mentioning this to a (left leaning) family member once and who then retorted ‘well it’s only usually girls in care’, as if that makes it ok. The girls I knew weren’t in care, and my heart weeps for any girl in the care system caught up in this.

In my view anyone who denies this is going on is part of the problem.

ForGreenHiker · 03/06/2026 17:32

Garlandedmantle · 01/06/2026 19:07

To ask you to watch this speech and wonder how, as mothers and a society, we can ensure this unspeakable, sickening stain on our history can never happen again. To anyone’s daughters.

This is today’s enquiry in Parliament which hears the hideous testimony of children who were trafficked and abused and raped by and like dogs.

A speech by Rupert Lowe!

He is leading an ethno nationalist party. His policies have been described as “more right wing than the BNP”. He has talked about deporting UK nationals based on the colour of their skin.

And he’ll use the rape of young white girls to push his racist agenda. A vile opportunistic grifter. So yes, YABU.

Stick0rTwist · 03/06/2026 17:36

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NancyBellaDonna · 03/06/2026 17:47

Rupert Lowe. A man so reprehensible that even Reform won't have him back.

Stick0rTwist · 03/06/2026 17:59

NancyBellaDonna · 03/06/2026 17:47

Rupert Lowe. A man so reprehensible that even Reform won't have him back.

He doesn’t want to be part of Reform….

Can I ask what he’s said that’s bad or what makes him reprehensible in your eyes?

Whats your take on the grooming gang scandal?

I’ll eat my hat if you reply to these questions in a decent and relevant way.

hairbearbunches · 03/06/2026 18:00

This wasn’t just about race, it was also about class.

Rupert Lowe couldn’t give a shiny shit about working class girls.

Stick0rTwist · 03/06/2026 18:03

hairbearbunches · 03/06/2026 18:00

This wasn’t just about race, it was also about class.

Rupert Lowe couldn’t give a shiny shit about working class girls.

And you do? Are you pushing to get the rape scandal investigated? or are you part of the radical left on here who wish it would all go away and we forget about it?

He's the only MP actually doing something about it. Without him there would be no inquiry.

Disasterclass · 03/06/2026 18:05

I know a woman who was a victim of grooming. When she speaks about it she very much emphasises that we need to remember that there are many victims of grooming gangs who are from ethnic minorities. Not because they are more important but because they tend to get ignored (she herself is white). She also speaks about the need not to avoid talking about white men who perpetrate sexual exploitation. Again not to cover up Asian men doing this but remind people this is a male violence problem. That’s not to deny there have been horrific issues, but if you listened to some of the right wing parties you would be hard pressed to think that this is the case

CloudPop · 03/06/2026 18:28

DierdreDaphne · 02/06/2026 18:46

Ugh I am so bored of these carefully prepared (Aai assisted?) posts from right wing posters. Telling me I must believe something, be outraged about something, feel a certain way.

There was one telling us this morning that Henry Nowak was despised by the police specifically because he was white -with no evidence-when his own parents had appealed for people to keep race out of it. It feels so bossy, and worse, as though the site is being infiltrated deliberately by people whose main occupation is - infiltrating social media sites.

Yes that's just my opinion but there seem to be a lot of posters posing as "concerned mothers", who seem to have a lot more time to craft their posts to match right wing "talking points" than most actual mothers would have to spare.

Agree. It’s vile