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Is London a crime infested shithole?

240 replies

Netcurtainnelly · 12/04/2026 14:36

Is London a crime infested shithole? 👀

A woman was gang raped after leaving a nightclub, has come up in the news today. I saw someone describing London as a crime infested shithole and it's not a safe place anymore.😫

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BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:31

Born to the sound of Bow Bells

No. That's not about being a 'true Londoner' (whatever the fuck that is). That's the definition of a true Cockney. Totally different.

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:34

Itsmetheflamingo · 12/04/2026 19:15

I actually do agree the death of the true Londoner is a tragedy. When I moved to London in 1998 you could still tell whether someone was north east south or west London by their accent. Now the London accent is diluted to the point of lost really.

they all had to ship out to Kent and Essex to make way for Sophie and James from Berkshire to buy their first flat in the docklands

I've lived here since 1981. From The North. Oh - how dare I! When will you agree I'm a 'true Londoner'?

I promise you that I'm fully integrated.

Itsmetheflamingo · 12/04/2026 19:38

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:34

I've lived here since 1981. From The North. Oh - how dare I! When will you agree I'm a 'true Londoner'?

I promise you that I'm fully integrated.

I’m not a true Londoner either

WallowingInMud · 12/04/2026 19:40

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:31

Born to the sound of Bow Bells

No. That's not about being a 'true Londoner' (whatever the fuck that is). That's the definition of a true Cockney. Totally different.

You say tomAYto I say tomAH’O.

Because I was born in Zone 1 and, when they were a thing, had an 071 phone number.

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2026 19:41

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:31

Born to the sound of Bow Bells

No. That's not about being a 'true Londoner' (whatever the fuck that is). That's the definition of a true Cockney. Totally different.

A true cockney is born within earshot of St Mary Le Bow on Cheapside. I think they have a wide range. I imagine a true Londoner is born and brought up in a London Borough.

Wolmando · 12/04/2026 19:44

We never go there nowadays

lovealieinortwo · 12/04/2026 19:44

I think it’s changed somewhat.

I grew up in a then fairly sketchy part, normal to see prostitution & druggies in the day etc but you knew where to avoid at certain times. As long as I stuck to the advice I was fine.

London in the 90s was dirtier, poorer & likely more crime ridden than now. However I did feel the area I live in became more dangerous for my children which I disliked, so many muggings of young boys on the way home from school. My neighbours son was mugged by a child with a knife on a busy street in the afternoon. That just didn’t happen when I was young & if it did more people would intervene.

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2026 19:44

Me too @BIWI but I was born in the Home Counties and brought up there, arriving in London in 1980. I love London but don't think I'm a Londoner. We moved a little way away about ten years ago.

lovealieinortwo · 12/04/2026 19:46

I think i’m a true Londoner, born in z1 & raised in z 2/3.

If I moved to Cornwall would I become Cornish after a certain number of years?

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:47

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2026 19:44

Me too @BIWI but I was born in the Home Counties and brought up there, arriving in London in 1980. I love London but don't think I'm a Londoner. We moved a little way away about ten years ago.

You see, I do see myself as a True Londoner. I moved here when I was 21. I've lived here for 45 years.

lovealieinortwo · 12/04/2026 19:48

@BIWI but it’s different to be born & raised somewhere no?

ilovesooty · 12/04/2026 19:51

It's deliberately disruptive tosh driven by Farage.

But I imagine @Netcurtainnelly knows that.

Itsmetheflamingo · 12/04/2026 19:51

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:47

You see, I do see myself as a True Londoner. I moved here when I was 21. I've lived here for 45 years.

You can’t contribute to preserving the accents though!

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:52

lovealieinortwo · 12/04/2026 19:48

@BIWI but it’s different to be born & raised somewhere no?

How so?

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:52

Itsmetheflamingo · 12/04/2026 19:51

You can’t contribute to preserving the accents though!

I can do a really good Cockney though!

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2026 19:53

It's interesting isn't it @BIWI, My DH is from your County and came to London aged 21 too. He very much thinks of himself as a product of that County - through and through.

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:53

ilovesooty · 12/04/2026 19:51

It's deliberately disruptive tosh driven by Farage.

But I imagine @Netcurtainnelly knows that.

Of course she does.

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:54

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2026 19:53

It's interesting isn't it @BIWI, My DH is from your County and came to London aged 21 too. He very much thinks of himself as a product of that County - through and through.

God's own county?

WestwardHo1 · 12/04/2026 19:55

Epsom is Surrey FFS.

PonyPatter44 · 12/04/2026 19:55

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 12/04/2026 15:07

I've lived in london 40yrs.
We are approaching lawlessness now.

You can do what you like with virtual impunity.

Sadiq's solve for phone thefts is a yellow line...

I see abuse and violence on tfl far more regularly these days.

I just try and keep to myself.

Edited

What utter bollocks.

RosesAndHellebores · 12/04/2026 19:56

@ BIWI Yep - we've met and talked about it but I didn't want to be explicit because I didn't think you had.

WestwardHo1 · 12/04/2026 19:56

lovealieinortwo · 12/04/2026 19:46

I think i’m a true Londoner, born in z1 & raised in z 2/3.

If I moved to Cornwall would I become Cornish after a certain number of years?

Absolutely not. I've been here 25 years. I'll need to have been here 25,000 years before I'm seen as Cornish.

lovealieinortwo · 12/04/2026 19:56

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:52

How so?

I think it is, it’s just a different experience imo. If you met someone now from where you did grow up would you fess up or deny all knowledge? 😆

As I said if I moved to Cornwall or Manchester or anywhere else can I claim to be from there?

lovealieinortwo · 12/04/2026 19:57

WestwardHo1 · 12/04/2026 19:56

Absolutely not. I've been here 25 years. I'll need to have been here 25,000 years before I'm seen as Cornish.

That’s what I would imagine! 😆

BIWI · 12/04/2026 19:57

@SalmonOnFinnCrisp

Sadiq's solve for phone thefts is a yellow line...

You still haven't said what you mean by this. I'm not the only poster who has asked you to explain. And it's a genuine question - I really don't understand what you mean.

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