What is going on? Epstein

[Daisydolly10]

I keep seeing all over social media (yes I know), that Michael Jackson knew a lot about Epstein and what was going on and that he was set up, also that MJ was actually trying to protect children from the sex trafficking.

Also why the hell aren’t some of these powerful men being arrested? The only person in jail is a woman. It clearly wasn’t only Epstein and Maxwell involved in the abuse of young women and children.

Why the hell is King Charles still protecting his brother and has only made moves to strip him of his titles when it became clear that the scandal wasn’t going away. But Andrew is still living in Royal property and presumably Charles is finding his lifestyle.

Apologies if any of this is incorrect but right now I feel as though there is so much corruption it makes me feel that there are very few people that can be trusted and have no faith in the law.

MJ was and is one of those celebrities with crazy loyal fans. You could present some of those fans with actual evidence and a confession from their idol that he did indeed hurt children in the most depraved way and they would refuse to believe it or argue that it’s not his fault because “he didn’t have a childhood” etc.

I agree completely btw that the likes of Trump, Mandleson and Andrew MW etc should have been arrested and chucked in with all the other nonces. I hope they all get their comeuppance but think we will be in for a long wait.

Pam Bondi got her arse handed to her for redacting anything incriminating related to anyone who Trump likes, and yet published the names of the victims.

And so far the files released are distateful but unremarkable. No eating babies, fo example.

The Queen gets a mention. Doesn’t mean shit.

This latest release is simply a list of any famous names mentioned in any way. So, at some point, JE or someone he was in contact with, mentioned Elvis, the Pope, Theresa May etc. Probably in passing, ie Mr X likes Elvis songs, Mrs May is currently UK PM, the Pope will be touring Venice that week etc. It's classic Trump playbook: 'flood the zone' and keep his name, or any actionable name of any actual wrongdoer / witness well out of it.

The Lolita express flight logs show who actually travelled to the island

What’s that got to do with it? It appears he has trafficking and abusing minors and women everywhere, not just on the island

I would have thought it was obvious ?????

Obviously not, that’s why I asked

Thick as mince, have a nice day 👍🏻

I’m thick as mince? As far as I can see you have contributed nothing to this thread, apart from, 3 pages in posting:

“The Lolita express flight logs show who actually travelled to the island”

the flight logs were published years ago. Are you suggesting everyone who travelled to the island should be arrested?
Do you have a weird idea that travelling to an island is evidence of rape, sexual assault and trafficking?
Because that’s all I can think you think is “obvious” - but maybe only obvious to a thick person?

I don't know what to make of it. Some stuff just seems bizarre - the idea that all these ‘influential’ people were so freely admitting to various things in emails. I mean isn't that odd? I’m a nobody with nothing to hide and I'm cautious about what I put in emails - I wouldn't just slag my boss off in an email for example.

I don't know. It’s all very weird. Probably all one big distraction. It seems to have created more questions than answers...

Wasn't it the queen who paid Virginia Giuffre?

Doesn't matter whose brother. Andrew should have a trial and go to jail like all other rapists and pedofiles.

Who would put him on trial for what and what would AMW go to jail for?!

Outstanding post and very well explained. The hope is that an army of prosecutors are building up a case against these men that is water tight.

That’s the hope.

That said, It’s utterly sickening that they may very well get away with their heinous acts 😞

There’s also a picture from the files, allegedly a bathroom in Epstein’s house with a plane of Obama and other presidents boarding it (holding a red bag, which has occult links apparently).

There is a lot of speculation and exaggeration, but the files do confirm what has been speculated for years re. Paedo code language, and when it’s applied to the emails it is horrific what it actually implies if true. I first heard about satanic sex abuse from a book i’d read from a victim of a belgian ring in the 90’s that was busted involving prominent politicians. It said there were wider global networks and at the time I wondered if it was genuine or exaggerated as it seemed so crazy and far fetched. Then 8+ years later this all happened along with pdiddy and so on.

It sounds crazy, and it will be hard to separate the truth but it wouldn’t surprise me if there are nice ones on the list who are guilty as well, even if we don’t want them to be (Obama isn’t on the named list but Michelle is). They’ll want us to not believe it, roll our eyes and get back to work (before you start ‘they’ are the ones on the list and those in power who knew and didn’t care).

here’s the pic

ah shit i can’t work mumsnet

maybe now

there was no call on Clinton to release the files- none of us had any idea about this in the late 90s when he was president and in fact it seems like Epstein was most powerful and active after Bill Clinton was no longer president.

no surpise at all that he’s in there though, and I can well believe he would’ve hidden them if they’d come to light when he was in office

i think it’s unfair to accuse Biden of the same though

"There’s also a picture from the files, allegedly a bathroom in Epstein’s house with a plane of Obama and other presidents boarding it (holding a red bag, which has occult links apparently)."

Oh well, lock them up so 🤣 🤣 🤣

Maybe the wrong file has posted but that’s a drawing not a photo?

But the list just lists anyone whose name is mentioned in the files. Not just people who were involved with Epstein directly. Sometimes it’s just that Epstein asked to meet someone. The Mail has a handy collection outlining what connection each of the names mentioned had with Epstein.
https://mol.im/a/15530667

Lol @ Michael Jackson protecting young boys who were never going to be taken to Epstein's island ffs.

He was a fucking peado and anyone who thinks otherwise is mentally unstable and I certainly wouldn't trust them to look after my kids.

My brother sexually abused me and my sister when she was a pre-teen and I was in my early teens. We have almost no contact with him, in fact I can't recall the last time I saw him. So in answer to your question, yes I would cut him loose to fend for himself.

I’m not saying that, the picture could mean nothing says all but it’s weird 🤷‍♀️ I like Obama and haven’t seen anything in the files from what i’ve read so far to imply he was involved in anything. There’s many on here though along the lines of Obama could never do that, too nice etc.
But in my opinion, as with most politicians the nice guy image is an act. I doubt you become president being a nice guy all the time. Im sure he had to ruin a few lives along the way 😬