Dewi Evans - there's something seriously wrong with him, right?

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I'm amazed this guy actually 'got the job'.

He's got a very chequered past. Accusing an innocent mother of having Munchausen's by Proxy, when in fact her child had Zollinger-Ellison syndrome, where tumors cause a build up of acid and painful peptic ulcers.

In July 1997, Evans attended a social services case conference and said there was nothing wrong with Bonnie but that her mother "has problems". Evans said the mother suffered from the syndrome "attention seeking by proxy"

The judge later described Dr. Evans' report in that case as "worthless" and accused him of "proffering an opinion that was better than his actual knowledge."

Evans's clinic and Social Services ensured that Linda and Bonnie were permanently separated; Bonnie was distraught, as was Linda. Due to her parents' efforts, Bonnie's illness was treated.

I find it slightly odd that this didn't automatically bar him from being the expert witness in the Lucy Letby case. And that it isn't talked about very much (I haven't seen it mentioned anyway).

There is something not right about him.

He seems like an opportunist. Dare I say narcissist.

I think he has no choice but to keep his head down now after so much abuse from crazy Letby lovers.

I don’t have an issue with you copy pasting. Just bemused anyone can diagnose ‘narcissism’ and ‘bizarreness’ from a poorly referenced wiki posting having never met a person. Yet question how a jury can make an decision based on a 10 month trial, 10k pieces of evidence, multiple medical experts other than Dewi and Lucy’s own in-person testimony. A verdict that’s stood upto 2 appeals. But I’m not invested enough in her case anymore or this thread as her conviction was sound enough for me, so will bow out.

He kind of reminds me of Mark Williams Thomas - both of them popping up in popular cases and being quite vocal.

Bye

Diagnose bizarreness 🤣 never heard that before.

Yes, I’ve had this through the family court. It’s terrifying being up against an expert witness who is clearly a charlatan. It’s like fighting a rising wave. It takes months and years to rectify the destruction these people can cause through the legal channels. An experienced barrister can pick them apart.

People are aware he wasn't the sole prosecution witness right?

Why didn't that happen then? Are you saying Letby's defence was the problem?

Haven't seen the doco. Dewi Evans sounds frankly a bit odd to say the least, but then so do a lot of people involved in the case. So do Letby and her parents. I'm not troubled by her conviction.

He’s a charlatan.
His ego must be visible from space.
seems to have a chip on his shoulder about being Welsh, rather than a London big wig, all his own projection.
as someone with Welsh heritage he is a disgrace.

And yet an Appeal Court Judge was sufficiently perturbed to email the trial judge to express concerns at the use of this same expert witness...

https://furnivalchambers.co.uk/barrister/mark-mcdonald/

Evan’s supported the prosecution expert in Sallys trial I read somewhere. She was eventually found innocent but drunk herself to death. These grandiose men have such a lot to answer for.

Many of which work in this field & have a bit more knowledge than the general public. You carry on with your crazy letby lovers let’s hope you don’t have baby that needs care

Think he ( Evan’s) has been tied to other prosecution witnesses e.g he previously worked with them( female doctor on jersey happy to be wrong though)

You do know Evan’s causes of death were his opinion they were hypothesis not fact. Dr Lee with the expert panel review all the court evidence on the understanding whatever they found they would release publicly. Evan’s was never even a neonatologist he has now been retired a a pediatrician for 20yrs. They have given their expert opinion of how those babies died all were natural causes but poor medical care was highlighted throughout.

“You carry on with your crazy letby lovers let’s hope you don’t have baby that needs care”
Most babies need some level of care unless you home birth, thankfully my own didn’t need nicu but my niece and nephew were both born prematurely and needed nicu for a few days, it’s a stressful worrying time.
There is no evidence anyone harmed those babies.
Vulnerable Babies die on badly run, infected, falling down units.
Lucy letby was a scapegoat for the numerous failings of that unit.

He has a massive axe to grind against what he sees as the “establishment” in medicine (basically, in his view “posh” RP speaking consultants).

Guy is a TOTAL liability.

Yes, I agree completely with this!

Many rulings are made on the basis of the best evidence that can be provided. Best doesn't mean accurate. That's how the system work though.

The thing is, even if witnesses' characters can be questioned and doubt casted around the validity of their testimony, it doesn't lead to the conclusion that the accuse must therefore be innocent.

There are and will remain cases that can never be fully explained, no matter the pool of experts who are called to give their opinion. Because even experts' expertise is limited.

It's terrible to think that an innocent person is serving a life sentence because they were judged on closest case scenario rather than the truth. It's also horrible to think that the worse criminal in the country can get away from punishment if we consider that they can only be convicted basis of unrefuctable scientofic evidence which currently is only limited to dna evidence. Even then, dna is not exact 100% and then there is proving the evidence wasn't planted...

This is the best system we have currently. Maybe one day there will exist a truth sensor that will make the legal system redundant. In the meantime...

I’m glad other people are seeing him as the lunatic he is, unfortunately there are so many male doctors like him. They have god syndrome and they get reinforced by thick idiots around them. He will never believe anything he says or thinks is incorrect. Interestingly I’ve never come across a female doctor of any age with these traits.

I watched the Lucy Letby documentary last night and I’d never heard of this man before, however my gut feelings about him, whilst watching him being interviewed on the TV screen was of arrogance and I felt he was utterly incredulous and furious that his expert witness evidence was being questioned. He’s that white privileged male who believes he is beyond criticism and scrutiny. Often to be found in positions of power, and who never get questioned. It’s case closed as far as he is concerned. I thought the barrister who is questioning the verdict, came across really well. I’ve no idea if she is guilty of not. I feel completely confused by this case.

It is really hard to get medical experts - working doctors do not have the time to spend on this sort of work and the ones who volunteer are often a strange lot.

Medicine is very much about learning to manage uncertainty, there is a rarely a black and white answer to complex problems and almost always alternatives to consider. The courts and often general public, can’t manage uncertainty in the same way and someone like Dewi Evan’s would be very convincing to people who are not experienced in managing uncertainty. If you look at doctors forum in the UK, so many are concerned about his testimony and that he is so sure of his opinions - this is one neonatologist to follow here

https://x.com/NeoDoc11/status/1980218988253560896?s=20

I agree.
I would also say that initially just watching him describe how he approached the police for the job in the Lucy Letby case I found him “off”.
Nothing I have read about him since has changed my mind.
Comparing him to the array of international experts who have said that the evidence is completely flawed is like comparing what a bloke down the pub says to a treatise from Einstein.

Yes, and some of the other witnesses (Ravi Jayaram for one) lied under oath.

Also they were all basing their evidence off Dewi's theories.

I’m glad you’ve said that because I found that so bizarre I was almost going to start a thread about it.

Why the heck would it be up to LL to find an alternative theory/explanation as to what happened to the babies?

Am I being really thick?