neighbours have installed the ACTUAL SUN on the side of their house?

[tigerlover1]

So the neighbours are having their house renovated, all very normal, lots of banging and sawing etc. Fine, I can cope. But today the builders installed what I can only describe as a star-level security light.

Previously they had a normal little motion sensor light — you know, the standard “pop out to the bins without tripping over the cat” level of brightness. NOW? Now it’s like they’ve strapped a NASA-grade solar flare to the wall. I swear my bedroom is lit up like I’m orbiting the sun closer than Mercury. If I open the curtains I half expect David Attenborough to narrate the birth of a new planet.

And the sensor?? Oh. My. God. It’s going off ALL night. Breeze? On. Moth flapping its wings three streets away? On. Me blinking too loudly? On.
I’m lying in bed feeling like I’m sleeping on the set of Interstellar.
WIBU to ring the builders tomorrow and politely ask if they can angle it down a bit or maybe ?

It's up there with the posters who come to a thread about a film/show to say "I don't know, I haven't watched it" in terms of usefulness!

Because it made people laugh. As simple as that.
There's not much joy around these days, y'know.

Exactly. Use it to tidy up your writing because you don’t know how to phrase it, or to check grammar or spelling. That’s fine. But I come here for human interaction, not to read stuff written by AI or the opinions of AI.

They did, it’s definitely longer than an en dash, it’s the width of an M which is why it’s called that regardless of formatting arounf it, and chatgpt does put spaces around dashes.

I am usually on your side of this, I find long threads of is-it-AI tedious, but this post is such a clear cut case and everyone raving about it being brilliant writing while it’s superficially very smooth but as I’ve pointed out in posts above contains meaningless jumbles of words and is slightly wrong about what humans would do in this situation is such a good example of how AI will degrade the Internet by dazzling people into failing to read properly.

LLMs are amazing but passing off LLM generated text as human generated is not

Does GPT use em dashes incorrectly? I've only ever seen it spit them out with proper US grammar - ie without spaces, even when asked to put the writing into non-US English.

Will take your word for it on the length of the dash - like I said, my eyesight is not that good on a small screen!

Must go and have a play with GPT to see if I can persuade it to serve me up a spaced em dash, because I'm exactly that nerdy.

Like I said - no idea whether OP is a bot or not, or using AI or not (the two not being perfectly correlated). But the imperfect em did stand out to me as non-standard.

Hang on a minute, if they installed it today then how do you know what it’s like at night, and moreover how did you take the picture?

Ahhhahah I can’t believe I missed that while faffing around with NASA-grade solar flares and calling the builders directly.

What LLM comes out with is no more contrived than the texts created by humans that all this software is attempting to emulate.

Yes it's very chatgpt. Strange post, what prompts did you use? Make it funny for a forum? Are you testing it out????

came back to this thread and found out about em dashes. Never knew this existed. Didn’t expect to learn that today!

— you just hold down the hyphen on your phone keyboard and it pops right up.

It’s definitely an em dash. See below and you can compare to OP.

Hyphen -
En –
Em —

Get a torch with the 'light of a thousand candles' and shine it back at them. They'll soon get the msg.

Oh and this is one of a number of threads the op has started and never returned to. Some people are odd.

yes, it’s obvious and nothing to do with the dashes

I hope you work as a comedian.

They need it taken down. Disgraceful.

Apologies for the use of en bot em: this is because I was typing on my phone and, unbelievably, the keyboard available doesn’t include an em dash. I think you were referring to me with this comment rather than the OP who did actually commit the (alleged) crime of using a proper em dash which many illiterate people assume only an AI would do. It’s so bizarre and silly and I’m so sick of seeinf these silly comments any time anybody does use such puntuation, as well as sick of silly phone keypads that don’t even include these punctuation marks so that they can be used correctly and people are forced to substitute like I did or not use them at all.

Are people really using AI to “tidy up” posts on forums like this? Surely that wouldn’t be necessary. It’s basic communication. What would be the point of that or possible need for it, unless they were unable to write in sentences? It really is tiresome that whenever anybody writes anything remotely descriptive, detailed or using more complex sentence structure this same nonsense is posted about how it must be AI. I think it’s also against Mumsnet Talk Guidelines, is it not, to “troll hunt” in such a manner? I believe you are meant to report any supposedly “suspect” posts to MNHQ not derail the thread with unevidenced and potentially spurious accusations.

If your neighbours are assholes who would take delight in annoying you: What you want is some ice cubes and a sling shot/tennis racket. Fire them at the light to smash it. Ice cubes melt leaving no trace. Plausible deniability.

But see posts above by @WonderfulSmith pointing out the story doesn’t make logical sense and me pointing out that the metaphors don’t make sense and the suggested action is bizarre - when the Internet fills up with this kind of superficially clever but actually nonsensical content we lose an amazing resource so it’s important to analyse what’s happening with increasing spamming of AI content through every channel. Especially when people are so impressed by it that they miss the fact it doesn’t make sense.

There lots of posts that are barely comprehensible because of poor literacy skills or having English as an additional language. It’s perfectly reasonable to use AI to tidy it up so your post about a serious matter is understandable.

The opening post is clearly AI. Not just because is the use of language and em dashes but that it doesn’t make sense. Someone who could write like that would be able to make sense.