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To feel really sorry for Brigitte Macron.

31 replies

olderandnonthewiser · 28/10/2025 18:25

I mean what business is of anyone’s if she really is a man? (I don’t believe she is). What kind of wickedness is this?

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JHound · 28/10/2025 18:28

It seems to be a typical right-wing trope of attacking powerful left/liberal(ish) men they dislike: by insisting their wives are really men.

They do the same with Obama. The weird thing is there is something genuine to criticise Brigitte for: the fact she started seeing him when he was 15/16 and she was his teacher!

Gannety · 28/10/2025 18:30

YANBU. She is being victimised by pure right-wing, conspiracy-theorist insanity and transgender panic. Candace Owens has stoked the fire and now Macron is having to undergo invasive testing and disclose personal information which should never have been in the public domain.

I don't particularly like Brigitte Macron because I think her relationship with her husband in his youth was predatory but on this issue she is absolutely the victim.

Hoppinggreen · 28/10/2025 18:30

I don't think she is a man but she basically groomed Macron so I have no sympathy for her

tsmainsqueeze · 28/10/2025 18:31

I voted yanbu as i hate the way the media is relentless about people in the public eye, i also think she is a woman .
But i cannot get my head around the way she 'pursued' a school boy so for that reason i do not like or respect her.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 28/10/2025 18:33

JHound · 28/10/2025 18:28

It seems to be a typical right-wing trope of attacking powerful left/liberal(ish) men they dislike: by insisting their wives are really men.

They do the same with Obama. The weird thing is there is something genuine to criticise Brigitte for: the fact she started seeing him when he was 15/16 and she was his teacher!

Yes this is true there was loads of this tosh around about Michelle, I'm really confused how this has become such a thing though, some right wing nutjob throwing allegations about, why hasn't it just been shut down straight away?

JHound · 28/10/2025 18:33

Gannety · 28/10/2025 18:30

YANBU. She is being victimised by pure right-wing, conspiracy-theorist insanity and transgender panic. Candace Owens has stoked the fire and now Macron is having to undergo invasive testing and disclose personal information which should never have been in the public domain.

I don't particularly like Brigitte Macron because I think her relationship with her husband in his youth was predatory but on this issue she is absolutely the victim.

This.

It’s really weird for them to attack her and by extension Macron’s “masculinity” by pushing this myth.

They can simply attack the fact she is s groomer. It shows how the rabid right thinks: they think her being born male is worse than grooming a child!!

LivingDeadGirlUK · 28/10/2025 18:35

JHound · 28/10/2025 18:33

This.

It’s really weird for them to attack her and by extension Macron’s “masculinity” by pushing this myth.

They can simply attack the fact she is s groomer. It shows how the rabid right thinks: they think her being born male is worse than grooming a child!!

I think if anything has been proven by the events of the last year, its that right wing/Christian fundamentalists don't have any issues with grooming children.

Gannety · 28/10/2025 18:37

LivingDeadGirlUK · 28/10/2025 18:35

I think if anything has been proven by the events of the last year, its that right wing/Christian fundamentalists don't have any issues with grooming children.

Indeed. They have plenty of their own examples of men showing sexual interest in teenage girls, they probably don't want to poke this particular bear.

RingoJuice · 28/10/2025 18:39

She’s quite literally a rapist so I can hardly feel sorry for her

TheFretfulPorpentine · 28/10/2025 18:46

Hoppinggreen · 28/10/2025 18:30

I don't think she is a man but she basically groomed Macron so I have no sympathy for her

The Macrons have been together for the better part of twenty years, so it is reasonable to deduce that in their case, it actually was true love.

MidnightPatrol · 28/10/2025 18:55

RingoJuice · 28/10/2025 18:39

She’s quite literally a rapist so I can hardly feel sorry for her

Is she? I thought their relationship was inappropriate but not illegal.

But - if that was the case, then why not attack her for that rather than a made up story?

JHound · 28/10/2025 18:58

Gannety · 28/10/2025 18:37

Indeed. They have plenty of their own examples of men showing sexual interest in teenage girls, they probably don't want to poke this particular bear.

I think this is it.

JHound · 28/10/2025 18:59

MidnightPatrol · 28/10/2025 18:55

Is she? I thought their relationship was inappropriate but not illegal.

But - if that was the case, then why not attack her for that rather than a made up story?

I don’t think it was illegal either. Similar to Luc Besson and his first wife. Massively inappropriate but within French law.

JHound · 28/10/2025 19:00

TheFretfulPorpentine · 28/10/2025 18:46

The Macrons have been together for the better part of twenty years, so it is reasonable to deduce that in their case, it actually was true love.

I see it as two things can be true - the start of the relationship was disgusting and it is fair to see it ad grooming.

But after all this time he is likely where he wants to be.

Mollydoggerson · 28/10/2025 19:05

I think she groomed him, she attacked him on the plane, she speaks aggressively and rudely to people. I think she would be more sensible to ignore the crazy rumours and instead work on the behaviour she can improve.

Catonacoldfridgefreezer · 28/10/2025 19:05

But after all this time he is likely where he wants to be.

Watch this space… I don’t think they’ll still be together in a few years. Brigitte is 70 years of age now and as stylish as she is, certainly looks it. In fact for me, when I see pictures of them together the relationship seems as inappropriate as ever.

Catonacoldfridgefreezer · 28/10/2025 19:05

Mollydoggerson · 28/10/2025 19:05

I think she groomed him, she attacked him on the plane, she speaks aggressively and rudely to people. I think she would be more sensible to ignore the crazy rumours and instead work on the behaviour she can improve.

This!

Gelflink · 28/10/2025 19:10

YABU. I do not feel sorry for man or women, at any point, who groomed their student

Muffinmam · 28/10/2025 19:27

Hoppinggreen · 28/10/2025 18:30

I don't think she is a man but she basically groomed Macron so I have no sympathy for her

Same. She’s a predator.

I saw the original video of Candace calling out Brigette for being a man and it is convincing! She looks like an odious little toad.

I also think she’s abusive towards Macron - as evidenced by her being filmed on board a plane striking him.

I have zero sympathy for her.

Muffinmam · 28/10/2025 19:28

JHound · 28/10/2025 19:00

I see it as two things can be true - the start of the relationship was disgusting and it is fair to see it ad grooming.

But after all this time he is likely where he wants to be.

I hope he can find the strength to leave this vile woman.

TomatoSandwiches · 28/10/2025 19:29

I don't think she is a he but she is a despicable human for taking advantage of a 15yr old school boy when she was his teacher so no I don't feel sorry for this predator.

PinkPonyClubDancer · 28/10/2025 19:29

She’s horrid!

EmmaWotsit · 28/10/2025 19:57

Candace Owens has stoked the fire and now Macron is having to undergo invasive testing and disclose personal information which should never have been in the public domain

I wish BM had just laughed it off, called Candace Owen crazy which, to be fair, she is and not sued.

She looks like an odious little toad

CO or BM?

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 28/10/2025 19:58

She’s dodgy in her own right but I’m still not convinced they should be giving any attention to these right wing conspiracy nuts.

Guavafish1 · 28/10/2025 19:59

Michelle Obama

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