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Never having sex again

466 replies

user043857398 · 21/09/2025 08:29

What age were you when you realised you never wanted to be touched by a man again and saw absolutely no value in a man choosing to be with you long-term?

I'm probably quite young to have come to this conclusion and the knowledge that I'll never have a romantic connection again fills me with joy.

Friends, my children, my home, my future all take my headspace up and it's such a beautiful contrast to spending my youth chasing men and hoping they would 'choose me'. It must all have been due to societal programming. I look back and realise I was always happier when I was single and not interested in someone romantically.

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HRTQueen · 23/09/2025 19:29

StripyShirt · 23/09/2025 11:57

More a case of them being happy to marry a complete oaf and then spend their lives complaining about them?

Do people not discuss things like the sharing of housework and childcare before moving in together?

Its an expectation in this day and age that the man you live with will share responsibilities, housework and childcare

I don’t know any women that have married men are complete oafs to start with

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:32

JHound · 22/09/2025 22:39

Sex in that context tends to be rubbish though.

Why? Why would sex with a casual friend be rubbish?

JHound · 23/09/2025 20:35

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:32

Why? Why would sex with a casual friend be rubbish?

Google “Orgasm Gap”.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 20:38

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:32

Why? Why would sex with a casual friend be rubbish?

Why would it be good? I can’t think of anything worse.

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:39

JHound · 23/09/2025 20:35

Google “Orgasm Gap”.

If a woman can have an orgasm with a man she is in a relationship with, why would it be less likely during a sexual encounter with a man she is not in a relationship with?

JHound · 23/09/2025 20:40

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:39

If a woman can have an orgasm with a man she is in a relationship with, why would it be less likely during a sexual encounter with a man she is not in a relationship with?

Google “Orgasm Gap”.

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:41

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 20:38

Why would it be good? I can’t think of anything worse.

I don't understand. Sex is sex. If sex in a relationship is good, then why would it be bad outside of a relationship? This doesn't make sense.

It's like saying you enjoyed eating Mars bars if you're at a train station, but not if you're at a bus stop. It's the same Mars bar.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 20:42

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:39

If a woman can have an orgasm with a man she is in a relationship with, why would it be less likely during a sexual encounter with a man she is not in a relationship with?

Because there’s no love? Or trust?

Sex isn’t just about an itch to scratch.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 20:44

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:41

I don't understand. Sex is sex. If sex in a relationship is good, then why would it be bad outside of a relationship? This doesn't make sense.

It's like saying you enjoyed eating Mars bars if you're at a train station, but not if you're at a bus stop. It's the same Mars bar.

You don’t seem to understand people are different.

I’ve never done casual sex. I find the thought horrible. Why should l share myself with someone who just wants a hole to empty himself into?

l need someone who l can trust to form a sexual relationship with, not a fling.

It’s immaterial anyway. No interest now.

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:44

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 20:42

Because there’s no love? Or trust?

Sex isn’t just about an itch to scratch.

Can you not feel love for friends or acquaintances? Can you not trust a friend that you know?

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:45

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow Why should l share myself with someone who just wants a hole to empty himself into?

The whole idea is that you're supposed to enjoy it too. The overwhelming majority of men don't enjoy sex if they think the woman is not enjoying it.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 20:46

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:44

Can you not feel love for friends or acquaintances? Can you not trust a friend that you know?

No!

I wouldn’t even go there. Just leads to too many misunderstandings. Why would l shag a friend?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 20:46

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:45

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow Why should l share myself with someone who just wants a hole to empty himself into?

The whole idea is that you're supposed to enjoy it too. The overwhelming majority of men don't enjoy sex if they think the woman is not enjoying it.

But l wouldn’t ever enjoy casual sex.

So that’s how l regard it.

Gwenhwyfar · 23/09/2025 20:57

BauhausOfEliott · 21/09/2025 12:45

What’s romantic love got to do with a damn good fuck?

I’m 49. I really enjoy sex and I find men attractive. I also love my partner, but that isn’t really why I enjoy sex with him. I enjoy sex with him because sex is something I get a lot of pleasure from and he’s good at it. I wouldn’t ever cheat on my partner because I adore him, but I know full well I would also enjoy sex if I had it with other people too.

The number of women on Mumsnet who insist they have zero interest in sex of any kind, even at a relatively young age, and who also insist that the very notion of spending any time with a man makes their skin crawl, is bizarre. I know literally nobody in real life, of any age, who feels like this and I think Mumsnet is very disproportionate on this. It’s very odd to me that people talk about a complete loathing of sex as a normal life stage that we can all expect as women. Certainly, a lot of people see their sex drive drop, but complete revulsion at the mere suggestion of physical touch or affection isn’t especially normal.

How do you know that you don't know anybody who feels like this in real life?
You might do, but they either don't mention it or lie about because it's not socially acceptable.

As far as romantic love having anything to do with sex, I don't believe you don't know any women who do think the two are connected.

CantBreathe90 · 23/09/2025 21:02

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:41

I don't understand. Sex is sex. If sex in a relationship is good, then why would it be bad outside of a relationship? This doesn't make sense.

It's like saying you enjoyed eating Mars bars if you're at a train station, but not if you're at a bus stop. It's the same Mars bar.

Why anything with sexuality? Why do some people only orgasm with men, or with women? Why do some people really like BDSM while others like it vanilla?

It's quite common for people to only enjoy sex, with someone they are in a relationship with, and for whom they have romantic feelings for. As to why this in particular, is a question for the philosophers...

Gwenhwyfar · 23/09/2025 21:03

"I've always only ever enjoyed sex when it comes with love. "

Demi-sexual although I think it includes any kind of romantic connection and doesn't have to be 'in love'. I think it's so common among women that it shouldn't have a particular label.

JHound · 23/09/2025 21:08

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:41

I don't understand. Sex is sex. If sex in a relationship is good, then why would it be bad outside of a relationship? This doesn't make sense.

It's like saying you enjoyed eating Mars bars if you're at a train station, but not if you're at a bus stop. It's the same Mars bar.

Mars bars have a consistent ingredients list, recipe and taste. To compare this to sexual activity which varies wildly is incredibly stupid.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 21:19

Gwenhwyfar · 23/09/2025 21:03

"I've always only ever enjoyed sex when it comes with love. "

Demi-sexual although I think it includes any kind of romantic connection and doesn't have to be 'in love'. I think it's so common among women that it shouldn't have a particular label.

I thought Demi sexual meant people only feel attraction when they know someone.

I can feel very attracted to someone who l’ve just met. Wouldn’t want to sleep with them though until l knew them better.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 21:22

So you don’t enjoy sex with your partner because you love him, just because you enjoy sex?

How bleak and empty is that?

VoltaireMittyDream · 23/09/2025 21:56

shuggles · 23/09/2025 20:41

I don't understand. Sex is sex. If sex in a relationship is good, then why would it be bad outside of a relationship? This doesn't make sense.

It's like saying you enjoyed eating Mars bars if you're at a train station, but not if you're at a bus stop. It's the same Mars bar.

Eh? Is sex is always exactly the same for you, no matter the context or the partner?

shuggles · 23/09/2025 22:21

VoltaireMittyDream · 23/09/2025 21:56

Eh? Is sex is always exactly the same for you, no matter the context or the partner?

It has been very different, but I don't believe any of that was related to being in a relationship or not being in a relationship. I have never been in a relationship though, so strictly speaking I have no basis for comparison, but I don't see how the "relationship" aspect per se makes it better or worse.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 22:29

shuggles · 23/09/2025 22:21

It has been very different, but I don't believe any of that was related to being in a relationship or not being in a relationship. I have never been in a relationship though, so strictly speaking I have no basis for comparison, but I don't see how the "relationship" aspect per se makes it better or worse.

How can you not see this basic thing?

shuggles · 23/09/2025 22:30

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/09/2025 22:29

How can you not see this basic thing?

What basic thing?

Buffypaws · 24/09/2025 07:35

StripyShirt · 23/09/2025 10:55

There are loads of good men out there.

Why not just raise your standards when looking for a partner?

have you been on the dating apps lately?

this site is full of women being cheated on, abused or just low key treated like a drudge.

In real life, even the men who start out the most devoted end up being awful after marriage.

this is what I mean about being groomed by Disney. Most men aren’t chivalrous princes in my experience. Is sex with the hottest ones worth all the downsides? Not sure it is any more. Maybe in my 20s it was fun. Now I just want to play with my cats.

gannett · 24/09/2025 08:35

I also find the prevailing revulsion at all things sexual on MN to be quite peculiar.

I'm assuming asexuality is far more common than it's generally thought, given the number of women who say they've never enjoyed sex.

Or a lot of women have just never experienced a good sexual partner (very plausible, given the proportion of men who are good at it). Because the ones who say they used to have a sex drive but are relieved that it's gone are the most baffling to me. Sex has generally given, and continues to give, me enough pleasure that if I stopped wanting it I'd be quite unhappy, and a bit alarmed. It would be like suddenly losing my sense of taste, or suddenly getting no pleasure from music.

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