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Eastenders theories

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Leedssdeel · 04/09/2025 18:46

I love Eastenders and I’m hooked right now!

I want to talk theories ! Who is the father of Zoe’s baby ? How are her and Max connected ? ( I haven’t watched today’s ! )

  • I do not think Max is the father of her babies. She said ‘bad blood ‘ so whoever is the father , is bad enough for her to give her baby up. At that point , it was before Max even came to the square and he didn’t come in as an evil character , he has never really been that - yes , he’s a womaniser but not some kind of evil , abusive person. It would mean re writing Max’s character . She was also talking to Kat in the ambulance about the baby saying things like “ I’m not good enough , I’m the toxic one , I can’t even give birth right” which sounds like classic talk of someone abused , so I’m thinking the father made her feel like that.
  • My theory is that the father is someone connected to Eastenders but not necessarily now , but back in her time. Either it was Den Watts baby or Dennis’ baby ( bad blood would be from Den or Dennis because Den is his Dad )
  • She said ‘ He’s still alive ‘ - we know Den is dead because he was buried and the actor has died so can’t come back - maybe a reach … but is Dennis somehow alive still , a faked death ? Was he involved in something that meant he had to leave Sharon …. It was Danny Moon who stabbed him . He was then killed by Jake Moon and that was because of Dennis’ death . We recently learnt Jake is still alive - what is he like now, is he dangerous ? I don’t know how this could all quite link but with Chrissy and Jake being back last year and they’re all tied together ( Zoe , Dennis etc ) maybe it’s something there ? Did Dennis have to fake his death because of something Zoe did - in revenge maybe - then he learnt that she gave his baby up ( or his brother if it was Den who’s the dad ) and Zoe has been running scared from him ?
  • Just because Max called Zoe , it doesn’t mean it’s him who she is running from. He could have ended up in Spain and met her , got involved with something with her maybe that they’re both running from, trying to help her out of a loyalty to the slaters because of Stacey?
  • I absolutely don’t think Joel is her son it makes no sense .
  • When Zoe left, her and Kat were ok. Then she just went distant and disappeared- it has to be a reason connected to the square during her time there . Would she stay away from her whole family after giving up her baby and losing a baby - just because she got pregnant by Max , who at that time nobody knew ?

PLEASE share your theories !

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Mermaidsarereal · 04/09/2025 19:23

So I have a theory too... the baby on the flashback looked mixed race, and the keyring she left was something to do with a bar in Ibiza. Could the father be Vincent Hubbard? He met Ronnie Mitchell in Ibiza I'm sure! Would also make what Zoe said about having bad blood make sense 🤔 I was also thinking that her son could be the new drug dealer character Okie. I really hope they don't make us wait until Christmas to find everything out!

Leedssdeel · 04/09/2025 19:39

Mermaidsarereal · 04/09/2025 19:23

So I have a theory too... the baby on the flashback looked mixed race, and the keyring she left was something to do with a bar in Ibiza. Could the father be Vincent Hubbard? He met Ronnie Mitchell in Ibiza I'm sure! Would also make what Zoe said about having bad blood make sense 🤔 I was also thinking that her son could be the new drug dealer character Okie. I really hope they don't make us wait until Christmas to find everything out!

Oooh this is making sense ! Okie was a side character but he’s getting a lot of screen time ! I didn’t notice the baby was mixed race , but I have seen others say this. Vincent would make sense in being bad blood - because he was a dodgy character , he did meet Ronnie in Ibiza too! Also the “ he’s still alive “ it would also be a nice little Easter egg that the gin she was shot with , was actually Okies gun!

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Leedssdeel · 04/09/2025 19:40

SallyD00lally · 04/09/2025 18:50

Not sure if you realise OP but there's long running Eastenders thread in the Telly Addicts topic you might be interested in.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts

Yes and I loved it but for some reason I can’t get to the end of the thread , my phone just keeps sending me to the 2023/24 posts 😭

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TearsForFears25 · 04/09/2025 19:41

Think this would do better in the telly thread, not AIBU

Leedssdeel · 04/09/2025 19:41

Mermaidsarereal · 04/09/2025 19:23

So I have a theory too... the baby on the flashback looked mixed race, and the keyring she left was something to do with a bar in Ibiza. Could the father be Vincent Hubbard? He met Ronnie Mitchell in Ibiza I'm sure! Would also make what Zoe said about having bad blood make sense 🤔 I was also thinking that her son could be the new drug dealer character Okie. I really hope they don't make us wait until Christmas to find everything out!

Also that this was all linked into the wedding of Patrick and Yolande , so linking to Kim….

i really hope we don’t have to wait until Christmas !

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FullLondonEye · 04/09/2025 19:45

Okie passed 19 a long time ago.

By bad blood I took to mean from her, because she is the product of incest.

InterestedDad37 · 04/09/2025 19:47

Tommy Shelby 😀

GingersOwner26 · 04/09/2025 19:54

I did Google it because I wasn’t sure, and Den died in February 2005, so not sure the dates quite add up….

TY78910 · 04/09/2025 20:02

I have seen today’s episode already so I’m not going to comment on a lot. But I think it’s Anthony.

RedRiverShore5 · 04/09/2025 20:05

Yes, I also think Anthony is the father and he doesn't know

TY78910 · 04/09/2025 20:10

RedRiverShore5 · 04/09/2025 20:05

Yes, I also think Anthony is the father and he doesn't know

It’s that exchange when she was laying in the vic when she was asking if he was married with kids and then someone made a remark about them having dated before

Leedssdeel · 04/09/2025 20:41

TY78910 · 04/09/2025 20:10

It’s that exchange when she was laying in the vic when she was asking if he was married with kids and then someone made a remark about them having dated before

Why the ‘bad blood’ comment though ? As Anthony is good.. unless she was talking about herself ?

I will feel let down if it’s Anthony though , because it would be boring .

Also - she knows how good he is , that he was a doctor , so why would she give abandon the baby to go to the care system when she would know he would have a good life with Anthony and she knows he would have taken the baby and cared for him

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the80sweregreat · 04/09/2025 20:44

Lifelong fan and watcher and following all
your theories with interest.

TY78910 · 04/09/2025 21:10

Leedssdeel · 04/09/2025 20:41

Why the ‘bad blood’ comment though ? As Anthony is good.. unless she was talking about herself ?

I will feel let down if it’s Anthony though , because it would be boring .

Also - she knows how good he is , that he was a doctor , so why would she give abandon the baby to go to the care system when she would know he would have a good life with Anthony and she knows he would have taken the baby and cared for him

I don’t know if they’ve brought him back as a ‘good guy’. The way he was lashing out at Oscar was setting him up to appear a bit more sinister. Perhaps they are re-writing his character.

Leedssdeel · 05/09/2025 20:35

TY78910 · 04/09/2025 21:10

I don’t know if they’ve brought him back as a ‘good guy’. The way he was lashing out at Oscar was setting him up to appear a bit more sinister. Perhaps they are re-writing his character.

I hope it’s not him. He has always been a boring character , in my opinion. I wouldn’t be shocked if he would just be disappointed and re writing the character would feel like it’s forcing a storyline . I really want it to be someone that makes us all gasp !

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